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Thread: Dream Act, Your Vote!

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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I see a lot of tea-bagging anger here, as well as the usual fear and ignorance.
    I am no tea partier and there is no ignorance and fear in my statement. Illegal immigration should not be rewarded period seeing how all it does is encourage more illegal immigration. Allowing illegals a free pass just because they go to college or the military is absurd, especially considering the fact the government is supposed to be stopping illegal entry and punishing those who are here illegally. The idea that an illegal can even walk into a government facility or office without getting arrested should be abhorrent to everybody.


    This seems to be a good idea, who is the progressive that thought it up?
    Probably the same scumbags who thought of amnesty for illegals and so called immigration reform compromise.
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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Why do you advocate such a large government expenditure?

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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    Well, in times past the United States has inducted citizens through military service.

    I find it ironic people complain about the government not operating at the level of the private sector when they are ones tying it's hands behind it's back. Just like Jim Crow racism.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 11-05-10 at 03:32 PM.
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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    If you are here illegally then **** you, there should be no paths to citizenship for you as long as you remain in this country illegally.
    While the anger is a bit much for me, I agree with the general sentiment.

    If you are here illegally, you do not deserve a path to citizenship... you deserve to be sent back to whatever country you came from. You're taking spots away from legal immigrants who followed the rules, and whom I welcome with open arms.

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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    See, "deserve," that's the problem. People bring all these complicated moral specifications to government that prevent it from doing what is economical.
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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post

    If you are here illegally, you do not deserve a path to citizenship... you deserve to be sent back to whatever country you came from. You're taking spots away from legal immigrants who followed the rules, and whom I welcome with open arms.
    I think they should get at least six months in jail first(assuming illegal immigration is their only crime and their first offense) just like the law allows before being deported. And if someone is caught here illegally then they should be permanently blacklisted, no visa of any kind and no entry what so ever.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    I see no practical reason to impede the desire of people who want come to this country, work in it, and support its society. The solution to illegal immigration is to make it easier to immigrate legally.
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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    This seems like the first step to amnesty for illegals. These people are not U.S. citizens so why should they be given in-state tuition rates? There are tons of young U.S. citizens (myself included) struggling to pay their way through higher education. We incur thousands of dollars in debt and still have to face a horrible job market.

    This will only attract more illegal immigrants. You know the Dems stuck this to the Defense Bill because it couldn't pass on its own merits.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    This seems like the first step to amnesty for illegals. These people are not U.S. citizens so why should they be given in-state tuition rates? There are tons of young U.S. citizens (myself included) struggling to pay their way through higher education. We incur thousands of dollars in debt and still have to face a horrible job market.

    This will only attract more illegal immigrants. You know the Dems stuck this to the Defense Bill because it couldn't pass on its own merits.
    Economical, economical, economical.

    If we limited policy to what was measured to be economical, the United States would be a much stronger nation.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 11-05-10 at 04:00 PM.
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    Re: Dream Act, Your Vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
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    In it's current form, I would not support the DREAM act. If it was for children of illegals brought to this country by their parents who by age 19 enlist in the military for a minimum 4 your active duty stint, and that was the only path to citizenship for them, then I could support it. Those people are here through no fault of their own, and to prove their worth to become citizens serve this country, I think that could be a positive.
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