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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Have to disagree. While Democracy is no magic wand that eradicates domestic terrorism, it certainly lowers the probability. Compare the US, UK, or France to Yemen, Cambodia or Burma in terms of domestic political violence.
    Oh, well, of course -- it's no great revelation to state that the industrialised Western powers are at less of a risk of domestic terrorism than, say, Somalia. But the caveat is, is that due to democracy, or some other actor that France, Germany, the UK, the US, Canada, etc., have in common? Could it be that domestic terrorism is hampered instead by industrialisation? Or perhaps by social-democratic policies, such as free healthcare, welfare, education, etc. (which do not always go hand in hand with democracy, I might add -- look at South Africa for an example)?

    I think it would be too great of a leap to pin the West's lowered domestic terrorism levels on democracy alone.

    There's also another scenario to consider -- try Russia. Would it be considered domestic terrorism when the Chechens or Dagestanis bomb targets in Chechnya or Dagestan? They are indeed a part of Russia, but the Chechens (with a couple notable exceptions) are mostly enacting terrorist violence within Chechnya, not Volgograd or Moscow.

    What, then, do we call that?

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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Have to disagree. While Democracy is no magic wand that eradicates domestic terrorism, it certainly lowers the probability. Compare the US, UK, or France to Yemen, Cambodia or Burma in terms of domestic political violence.
    The reason we have less terrorist alarms is luck, distance, and the high cost of any new conspiracy plots. With OBL out of the picture, big money is scarce, and possible new money sources aren't about to take foolish chances with a country that shoots first and asks questions later.

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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    the reason we have less terrorist alarms is luck, distance, and the high cost of any new conspiracy plots. With obl out of the picture, big money is scarce, and possible new money sources aren't about to take foolish chances with a country that shoots first and asks questions later.

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    edit: o i get it.

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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Hamas was elected by popular vote.

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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Democracy is an extremely vague term because it currently has little real-world instances. Western civilisation today is based upon republican values. A republic is a mechanism to silence democracy.

    Terrorism, on the other hand, is probably more democratic than you think.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Elutherian View Post
    Hamas was elected by popular vote.
    Thus highlighting one of the failures of democracy.

    “Popular vote”.

    What is popular is rarely what is best.
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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post

    What is popular is rarely what is best.
    A good example is the tea party.

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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    A good example is the tea party.
    Playing devil's advocate, what if they are the exception that proves the rule?
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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Playing devil's advocate, what if they are the exception that proves the rule?
    Given that you used the word rarely, than there would, of course be exceptions.

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    Re: Is Democracy Antithetical to 'Terrorism'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Given that you used the word rarely, than there would, of course be exceptions.
    Well then, I rephrase:

    "Playing devil's advocate, what if they are one of the rare instances of something being both popular and best?"
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