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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    A government-created job is simply another conduit for wealth transfer, an expansion of the welfare state. Purchasing labor for which there is no demand is indistinguishable in practice to buying up crops for which there is no demand. These are subsidies that squander resources (which are of course scarce) and reduce prosperity.

    You're using the word job, but a government-created job is an entirely different thing than a job created by demand for services in the market.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Of course government can create jobs. The interstate highway system during the Eisenhower admin., space travel - the moon, the internet, atomic energy, military industrial complex, etc. etc.
    Most of which you probably don't support, since they aren't money give-aways to the poor.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by pendulum_jaw View Post
    A government-created job is simply another conduit for wealth transfer, an expansion of the welfare state.
    But... they're working for the money.

    Purchasing labor for which there is no demand is indistinguishable in practice to buying up crops for which there is no demand. These are subsidies that squander resources (which are of course scarce) and reduce prosperity.
    You function off of the assumption that there is no demand for what the government does. That is... 'dumb'.

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Most of which you probably don't support, since they aren't money give-aways to the poor.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    But... they're working for the money.
    What's your point? If the state pays you $200 a day to dig holes in your back yard and fill them back up again you're "working for the money", but it's still welfare. Nobody in the market would pay you for that particular service.


    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    You function off of the assumption that there is no demand for what the government does. That is... 'dumb'.
    This is a straw man. Show me where I claimed something as sweeping as "there is no demand for what the government does". If the government is buying up surplus corn from farmers in Nebraska that action ipso facto demonstrates a lack of demand for the crop product in the market.
    Last edited by pendulum_jaw; 11-09-10 at 12:47 AM.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Most of which you probably don't support, since they aren't money give-aways to the poor.
    How's the view from up there on your horse?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by pendulum_jaw View Post
    What's your point? If the state pays you $200 a day to dig holes in your back yard and fill them back up again you're "working for the money", but it's still welfare. Nobody in the market would pay you for that particular service.




    This is a straw man. Show me where I claimed something as sweeping as "there is no demand for what the government does". If the government is buying up surplus corn from farmers in Nebraska that action ipso facto demonstrates a lack of demand for the crop product in the market.

    Umm... I guess you don't remember writing about the government digging and refilling holes in your backyard. You know. The one in the very post youre self refuting in atm.

    A government-created job is simply another conduit for wealth transfer, an expansion of the welfare state. Purchasing labor for which there is no demand is indistinguishable in practice to buying up crops for which there is no demand. These are subsidies that squander resources (which are of course scarce) and reduce prosperity.

    You're using the word job, but a government-created job is an entirely different thing than a job created by demand for services in the market.
    Maybe only when the government creates a job does it mean that the services it renders are without value. However I dont understand how the govenrment gets anything done without employing someone to do it.
    Last edited by MKULTRABOY; 11-09-10 at 02:58 AM.

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Just wanted to note, one cannot dig a hole to fill another because the hole created will be larger than the original; it's not an even exchange.

    "Digging a hole to fill another" is not about wasting time or standing still, it's about moving backwards.




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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Most of which you probably don't support, since they aren't money give-aways to the poor.
    LOL - yeah - them damned poor people and their use of atomic energy!

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by jucon View Post
    are you saying "creating" as in "creating a new type of position"?
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