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Indeed- the government can create jobs.
Called 'Government' jobs.
You just blew my mind.
Indeed- the government can create jobs.
Called 'Government' jobs.
What say you?
You just blew my mind.
What are you talking about? How's Mordor this time of year?
Originally Posted by Jucon
I'm not sure I understand you.
Capital is a major part of creating jobs. And government can provide capital to businesses.
Not sure, I live far away next to the Shire. It is a happy place. I assume that is a reference to New Zealand and not my mind...?
You said that the government created the job of being in a military. Well, military jobs were created thousands of years ago by some random cave man in some random tribe in some random part of the world, not in 2010 by the US Government.
Of course government can create jobs. The interstate highway system during the Eisenhower admin., space travel - the moon, the internet, atomic energy, military industrial complex, etc. etc.
A government-created job is simply another conduit for wealth transfer, an expansion of the welfare state.
Purchasing labor for which there is no demand is indistinguishable in practice to buying up crops for which there is no demand. These are subsidies that squander resources (which are of course scarce) and reduce prosperity.
Most of which you probably don't support, since they aren't money give-aways to the poor.
But... they're working for the money.
You function off of the assumption that there is no demand for what the government does. That is... 'dumb'.
Most of which you probably don't support, since they aren't money give-aways to the poor.
What's your point? If the state pays you $200 a day to dig holes in your back yard and fill them back up again you're "working for the money", but it's still welfare. Nobody in the market would pay you for that particular service.
This is a straw man. Show me where I claimed something as sweeping as "there is no demand for what the government does". If the government is buying up surplus corn from farmers in Nebraska that action ipso facto demonstrates a lack of demand for the crop product in the market.
A government-created job is simply another conduit for wealth transfer, an expansion of the welfare state. Purchasing labor for which there is no demand is indistinguishable in practice to buying up crops for which there is no demand. These are subsidies that squander resources (which are of course scarce) and reduce prosperity.
You're using the word job, but a government-created job is an entirely different thing than a job created by demand for services in the market.
Most of which you probably don't support, since they aren't money give-aways to the poor.
are you saying "creating" as in "creating a new type of position"?
Just wanted to note, one cannot dig a hole to fill another because the hole created will be larger than the original; it's not an even exchange.
"Digging a hole to fill another" is not about wasting time or standing still, it's about moving backwards.
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Is volume not constant, or something? What am I missing? You dig a hole and take out X amount of dirt and then dig a second hole and take out X amount of dirt to fill into the first hole... how is the second hole larger than the first?
Tell me this, would more jobs exist in an anarchist society or a governed society?
Umm... I guess you don't remember writing about the government digging and refilling holes in your backyard. You know. The one in the very post youre self refuting in atm.
Maybe only when the government creates a job does it mean that the services it renders are without value. However I dont understand how the govenrment gets anything done without employing someone to do it.
How's the view from up there on your horse? :sword:
The Apollo project, which returned to Earth a few hundred kilos of the moon, would never have been accomplished by private enterprise. The goal set by President Kennedy stimulated the development of new technologies, among them the microprocessor. Bill Gates and others owe their fortunes to the taxpayers who footed the bill.
Bumpy