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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Government can create temporary employment, but they cannot create jobs. Jobs and careers are created by the private sector.
    Better schools and educations lead to Americans being more internationally desired
    Better roads lead to improved transportation costs
    Better ports lead to an ability to import and export more goods
    More and better metro systems decreases traffic leading to better transportation times
    Building industrial parks open up areas for large businesses
    And obviously cutting taxes means people will be able to spend more and create jobs that way


    How does having an improved infrastructure not lead to jobs being created? Even in the private sector

    Look at the Transcontinental Railroad

    Look at the interstate highway system

    Look at the internet


    And look at government investments in technologies that are improved upon by the private sector and later adopted by the public

    Jet engines anyone?

    Nuclear power?

    Radar?

    Computers?

    How about all the things that have come from the NASA program?

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    Though NASA did not directly invent these things, they provided the demand and capital for these products to be improved upon and later released to the public for different uses.


    Jobs and careers may be created by the private sector, but without investors those jobs would not exist. And government is capable of investing in programs they recognize as being good ideas.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Obviously, the thing is cooperation between government, business, and the people.
    We did not always have this, and I believe it can be done better.
    Open-ness, honesty,fairness are paramount.
    Respect is the key.
    This is the one for our public servants to learn.....and BP...and our media.

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    The darling of the tea bagging conservatives has never heard of the Manhatten Project??
    Does she know of "cooperation"?
    Does she know anything other than what Glen, Rush, and Fox have drummed into her head?

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    The government cannot create jobs without destroying jobs in the private sector.
    What jobs did the government destroy when they created the entire nuclear power industry?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Government can create temporary employment, but they cannot create jobs. Jobs and careers are created by the private sector.
    Wait. So all of the career military people are really just filling temp jobs?

    I guess Colin Powell's long military career was just a temp job. You people crack me up.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You have got to be kidding me.
    He's not.

    Give $5K to $10K to low-income people?
    Not a bad idea, if done in small increments. The poor have greater marginal propensity to spend. The problem with much of the Bush tax cuts was that the rich who received the majority of them saved them. Sure they did go into investment and banks, but not exactly the same kind of stimulus that consumer demand in the rest of the economy would produce. Giving a $10k check would be a bad idea. But every week giving them $100 wouldn't be a bad idea.

    What does that do?
    Boosts consumer spending. Just like welfare benefits did. Despite market saturation, Walmart has been posting absurdly good returns for the period of the recession. And who shops at Walmart? Poor and middle class.

    Honestly, is the only way we know how to fix a broken economy to hand out bucks??? What about freaking jobs???
    You do understand the correlation between consumer spending and jobs no?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    What jobs did the government destroy when they created the entire nuclear power industry?
    Private companies that could have expanded the domestic workforce in other areas like coal power generation and manufacturing.

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Wait. So all of the career military people are really just filling temp jobs?

    I guess Colin Powell's long military career was just a temp job. You people crack me up.
    A career military person is one less person in the private sector creating a job in other industries that actually create wealth. When was the last time the military actually made wealth?

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Private companies that could have expanded the domestic workforce in other areas like coal power generation and manufacturing.
    I dont know how nuclear energy impedes the manufacturing of anything and of course the domestic workforce is working at the nuclear plant already. Also nuclear employees structurally require training and education and the systems require infrastructure and support more complex than coal most likely.

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Private companies that could have expanded the domestic workforce in other areas like coal power generation and manufacturing.
    You assume that. The problem with opportunity cost arguments is that you must prove a counter factual. Good luck with that. Furthermore, the origin of the nuclear power industry was set in a period of time where coal generation wasn't looking to expand any more then it was already doing.

    So, I repeat my question,

    What jobs did the government destroy when they created the entire nuclear power industry?

    A career military person is one less person in the private sector creating a job in other industries that actually create wealth. When was the last time the military actually made wealth?
    And what makes you think that military person would be more of an asset in the private sector?

    Created wealth? Lots.

    Tactical to Practical - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Do you believe that nothing the military uses or has created has commercial applications?
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