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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Does the government not employ people?
    That is not "creating" a "job", is it?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is not "creating" a "job", is it?
    Sure it is, that job wouldn't exist of not for the government, so therefore the government created the job.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I suggest anyone look at the Hoover Dam, the Interstate freeway system as aspects of the government creating jobs
    Or the military. Or the entire defense industry. Or the entire nuclear power industry. The notion that government cannot create jobs is saying that the companies who are producing artificial limbs for amputee soldiers don't have jobs.

    Crazy.

    When you objectively examine US military expenditures, it is little more then a command economy dictating industrial policy. The government sets out proposals with large bags of money incentivizing specific work it wants done. It then picks contractors to do specific jobs and research. Rather then let the market produce the desired effect without interference, military expenditures effectively function as a form of central planning. Are there benefits to this? Yes. But military expenditures are one of the largest job creating tools the US government has.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Sure it is, that job wouldn't exist of not for the government, so therefore the government created the job.
    The term "create" is what is separating us. I am viewing it as creating not the job position, but the job ... hell, maybe I'm just trying to be too clever, and you know what Yoda said about trying.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Yes, government can create jobs. The issue tends to be whether or not government can create wealth. Can the government make the pie bigger? For example, if the private sector opens up a factory to produce goods it increases wealth because it gives people jobs while simultaneously creating a product that is valued. The factory workers receive paychecks from the profits the company makes in exchanging their product with customers. On the other hand, the government generally pays workers with tax money so there is no profit, but rather money is spread around.

    When private enterprise wants more income, it works overtime and produces more goods. When the government wants to save money it shuts down.
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    I'm sure you value the road outside where you live. And you paid for it through your tax dollars.

    Would you prefer paying a toll every time you came out of your driveway to get to work?

    That road helps make you more wealthy by making it easier for you to get to work. Not to mention it gave access to your plot of land so you could build a house on it. Without that road you likely wouldn't be living there.

    And what if you can't afford to send your child to a private school? Would you or your wife/girlfriend be able to afford not working in order to give them an education? Would you be able to get a private teacher? I'm sure you'd value the public school system.

    What if you don't have a car? Or can't find a parking spot ever? How will you get to work? Thank God there are buses and subway systems. Taxis are way too expensive to be using every day.

    And I don't know about you but I certainly value the fire department, police, and military.

    The government doesn't gain a profit... we do. The government has no profit because it spends it's incoming tax dollars back on the public. You need to pay people to make government work.

    Remember the saying, "of the people, by the people, for the people"?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The term "create" is what is separating us. I am viewing it as creating not the job position, but the job ... hell, maybe I'm just trying to be too clever, and you know what Yoda said about trying.
    What is the difference?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Sure they can, but should they, is the better question.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Does the government not employ people?
    by destroying jobs in the private sector, yes.

    government does not create net jobs.

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    by destroying jobs in the private sector, yes.

    government does not create net jobs.
    Tell me this, would more jobs exist in an anarchist society or a governed society?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Of course they can, they have before, and can do it again, it really isn't even a question. It's just a fact.

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