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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Just wanted to note, one cannot dig a hole to fill another because the hole created will be larger than the original; it's not an even exchange.

    "Digging a hole to fill another" is not about wasting time or standing still, it's about moving backwards.




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    Is volume not constant, or something? What am I missing? You dig a hole and take out X amount of dirt and then dig a second hole and take out X amount of dirt to fill into the first hole... how is the second hole larger than the first?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Is volume not constant, or something? What am I missing? You dig a hole and take out X amount of dirt and then dig a second hole and take out X amount of dirt to fill into the first hole... how is the second hole larger than the first?
    no, it's not a constant (utilizing the metaphor); because the multiplier is actually less than 1.0; so, in this case, you actually lose 20% of your dirt somewhere in the transfer by putting it into a hole less efficiently than you took it out.

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Tell me this, would more jobs exist in an anarchist society or a governed society?
    in an anarchist society, since everyone would be self-sustaining. mind you, a lot of jobs would be "thief", "farmer", and "kills other people".

    however, you are deliberately setting up a strawman. creating the conditions for economic growth is not the same thing as creating jobs. we are willing to accept some economic destruction (spending on the police, military, etc) in order to create the conditions that allow other growth to go forward. but it costs the government more to hire, train, and retain a police officer than it would for private industry to hire someone to perform a similar job; hence, the government must draw out more money from that private sector. Government destroys (say) 1.2 security jobs in the private sector to create a policeman; but without police (given human nature) we wouldn't have enforcement of contract and property rights, which is the necessary condition for growth in the first place.

    to turn your model above back on you; if the government can create wealth by spending, why doesn't it just hire every unemployed person and pay them 1 Billion Dollars a year?

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Umm... I guess you don't remember writing about the government digging and refilling holes in your backyard. You know. The one in the very post youre self refuting in atm.
    Not only do you have some reading comprehension issues here, but you're focusing on minutiae and ignoring the main points.. It also seems that you don't really understand what the basic economic concept of demand is.


    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Maybe only when the government creates a job does it mean that the services it renders are without value. However I dont understand how the govenrment gets anything done without employing someone to do it.
    What is your point, man?
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    The Apollo project, which returned to Earth a few hundred kilos of the moon, would never have been accomplished by private enterprise. The goal set by President Kennedy stimulated the development of new technologies, among them the microprocessor. Bill Gates and others owe their fortunes to the taxpayers who footed the bill.
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    Re: Can government create jobs?

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    Re: Can government create jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpy Knight View Post
    The Apollo project, which returned to Earth a few hundred kilos of the moon, would never have been accomplished by private enterprise. The goal set by President Kennedy stimulated the development of new technologies, among them the microprocessor. Bill Gates and others owe their fortunes to the taxpayers who footed the bill.
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    a single example of a government program that (at great cost) succesfully innovated and produced advances which did have parallel research lines in the private industry does not overturn the model. innovation and growth comes from the market, not government projects

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