View Poll Results: What should be done to cut down to help prevent voter fraud?

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  • In person voting(unless you are bed ridden).

    12 38.71%
  • Voter ID/registration required to be shown to vote

    12 38.71%
  • ID/driver's license required to be shown to vote

    19 61.29%
  • ID/driver's license to register to vote.

    16 51.61%
  • Voter ID/registration card with a photo of the voter.

    12 38.71%
  • In person to register to vote.

    9 29.03%
  • S.S. card to register to vote.

    6 19.35%
  • Birth certificate or naturalization document to register to vote.

    13 41.94%
  • Proof of address to register to vote.

    12 38.71%
  • other

    9 29.03%
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    According to OK state officials, it will cost $90,000 per election in Oklahoma to pay additional election workers to process IDs. There are approximately 6 elections a year. That's a lot of money for something unnecessary.
    I call BS on that. You are telling my that it 90,000$ per election cycle just to have polling place workers spend a extra two or three seconds to ask for ID, wait another few seconds for someone to pull out their ID/driver's license and another few more seconds to see if the photo on the ID matches the person holding the ID and that the names match?

    It would definitely slow down election workers.That means hiring additional personnel in order that all voters get processed expeditiously.
    No it wouldn't. Again it does not take but a few extra seconds to ask for ID and for someone to pull their ID out. It probably wouldn't cost anything to take a black magic marker and write on a piece of paper please have your IDs/Driver's license ready and take some scotch tape and tape that sign to the door to speed things up even more.

    Voters already have to wait in many locations, especially on heavy-turnout elections.
    How many time a year does heavy-turnout elections happen?
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    According to OK state officials, it will cost $90,000 per election in Oklahoma to pay additional election workers to process IDs. There are approximately 6 elections a year. That's a lot of money for something unnecessary.
    And why bother with trying to do voting fraud on a voter by voter basis? That seems exceedingly inefficent. You could spend hours to register 500 people....or a minute to hack the machine and change 10,000 votes.

    Seems easier (and cheaper) just to tamper with the machine.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Sorry, that clip was so short he didn't have a chance to explain why he doesn't want everyone to vote. People on here have said they also don't want everyone to have a vote.
    Was he talking about brain dead people, illegals, or prisoners ?
    I think he was talking about low income people who would vote for liberals.


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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I call BS on that. You are telling my that it 90,000$ per election cycle just to have polling place workers spend a extra two or three seconds to ask for ID, wait another few seconds for someone to pull out their ID/driver's license and another few more seconds to see if the photo on the ID matches the person holding the ID and that the names match?



    No it wouldn't. Again it does not take but a few extra seconds to ask for ID and for someone to pull their ID out. It probably wouldn't cost anything to take a black magic marker and write on a piece of paper please have your IDs/Driver's license ready and take some scotch tape and tape that sign to the door to speed things up even more.


    How many time a year does heavy-turnout elections happen?
    What part of "prove that voter fraud is a widespread and serious problem" are you not getting?
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    What part of "prove that voter fraud is a widespread and serious problem" are you not getting?
    Again you statement is idiotic. First of all ballots are anonymous so you can not prove fraud has or has not occurred.And it is idiotic to wait until something bad has happened before taking counter measures. If banks used your logic then they wouldn't get locks,safes and security cameras or hire guards until after they've been robbed and homeowners wouldn't bother locking their doors and windows until after they've been robbed blind. ID checks and many other things are a small price to pay to ensure that fraud does not happen.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And why bother with trying to do voting fraud on a voter by voter basis? That seems exceedingly inefficent. You could spend hours to register 500 people....or a minute to hack the machine and change 10,000 votes.

    Seems easier (and cheaper) just to tamper with the machine.
    Oklahoma has paper ballots not electronic voting machines.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again you statement is idiotic. First of all ballots are anonymous so you can not prove fraud has or has not occurred.
    So why are you flipping out if you have no idea if it has?

    And it is idiotic to wait until something bad has happened before taking counter measures.
    Just as bad to freak out and waste everyones time and resources.

    If banks used your logic then they wouldn't get locks,safes and security cameras or hire guards until after they've been robbed and homeowners wouldn't bother locking their doors and windows until after they've been robbed blind.
    False analogy. Banks can see the result if their booty is bungled.

    ID checks and many other things are a small price to pay to ensure that fraud does not happen.
    Idk I've shown my ID every time.

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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    So why are you flipping out if you have no idea if it has?



    Just as bad to freak out and waste everyones time and resources.
    Making sure there is no voter fraud is not a waste of resources.



    False analogy.
    No its not. According to Hoplite's logic we should first wait until something bad has happened first before taking preventive measures. In other words if he owned a bank he would wait until it was robbed first before having alarms,safes, security cameras and guards.
    Banks can see the result if their booty is bungled.
    Banks understand that it is idiotic to wait until you get robbed first before taking preventive measures.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oklahoma has paper ballots not electronic voting machines.
    Oklahoma has paper ballots that are read electronically, calculated electronically, and the results fed from county election boards to the state election board electronically. There is not any system which cannot be corrupted. Whatever safeguards are put in place, there is someone who will figure out a way around them.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    False analogy.
    No its not.
    According to the laws of this universe (of youre here atm) it is.

    According to Hoplite's logic we should first wait until something bad has happened first before taking preventive measures.
    You may be convinced that youve trapped him in your devious web of unconquerable higher debating skills, but his need to see proof that its a problem precedes your assuming he would wait for something bad to happen.

    In other words if he owned a bank he would wait until it was robbed first before having alarms,safes, security cameras and guards.
    ...
    Banks understand that it is idiotic to wait until you get robbed first before taking preventive measures.
    I show my ID and had to register to vote. So I dont see where this hooplah is coming from.

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