View Poll Results: What should be done to cut down to help prevent voter fraud?

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  • In person voting(unless you are bed ridden).

    12 38.71%
  • Voter ID/registration required to be shown to vote

    12 38.71%
  • ID/driver's license required to be shown to vote

    19 61.29%
  • ID/driver's license to register to vote.

    16 51.61%
  • Voter ID/registration card with a photo of the voter.

    12 38.71%
  • In person to register to vote.

    9 29.03%
  • S.S. card to register to vote.

    6 19.35%
  • Birth certificate or naturalization document to register to vote.

    13 41.94%
  • Proof of address to register to vote.

    12 38.71%
  • other

    9 29.03%
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    You dont prove a negative, it's on YOU to prove that there is voter fraud going on and that it's a serious problem. My part comes IF you can do that.
    You are the one claiming it is not happening,so you should prove it before asking anyone to prove that it has happened. Besides that you can't prove fraud with anonymous ballots.

    If it costs $1, its too much to spend on a problem that you havent even established as being a serious one.
    The extra costs ensures that such possibilities of voter fraud will be much harder. By your logic a new bank should not get a security system just because it is has yet to be robbed.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    The biggest potential problem with voter fraud is the method in how we vote. Electronic voting machines have never been secure. So much so that several demonstrations show that with the proper easily acquired equipment, e-voting results can be tampered with in less than a minute. The capacity to render thousands of votes to a different candidate far outweighs anything that has been brought up before.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are the one claiming it is not happening,so you should prove it before asking anyone to prove that it has happened. Besides that you can't prove fraud with anonymous ballots.
    Ok, you claim that there is voter fraud and that it's a significant problem, I dispute that claim, the burden of proof is on YOU.

    Here's a hint: If your position cant be proven true OR false, it's probably a logically un-sound idea.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Get rid of electronic voting and return to paper ballot.

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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    If there is no problem, then -nothing.
    But there is, and it is with the political parties, who do not wish to reform/improve the process.
    I still think that we need a national ID/social security/Medicare extended/drivers license/medical care/chipped card.
    One does everything and cannot be lost or stolen.
    But this requires infrastructure and trained/intelligent people, neither of which we have.....
    Some people think that it is bad that dead people vote in Chicago and that illiterates vote in the southern states. What is really BAD is the candidates can be brain dead (tea bagging conservatives) or illiterate...
    Do they read the bills that they wish to have enacted? This is what I mean by "illiterate". Or, do they make them to be readable (the coffee drinking liberals)
    Read the bills? That's a great idea, but it should be required of those voting for the bill. Then if you want voters to be required to read them....we'll talk.
    This last election there probably were more voters who read the HC bill than those who voted for it.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So... you expect us to take it on faith that it is not happening. You have yet to prove that it is not happening.



    I find it hard to believe that it would cost extra to pay a polling place worker or someone at the election board to ask for drivers license/ID,SS card, birth certificate? I also find it hard to believe that with all the foreign aid and other nonsense the US throws money away on that there would be an issue with the cost associated with preventing or cutting down on voter fraud.
    According to OK state officials, it will cost $90,000 per election in Oklahoma to pay additional election workers to process IDs. There are approximately 6 elections a year. That's a lot of money for something unnecessary.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If it were true, then there would be convictions or trials. Where are they documentm?

    Republicans/conservative bring up issue of voter fraud because it has the tendancy to supress the vote of low income people.

    Here is what Paul Weyrich had to say 30 years ago:

    Sorry, that clip was so short he didn't have a chance to explain why he doesn't want everyone to vote. People on here have said they also don't want everyone to have a vote.
    Was he talking about brain dead people, illegals, or prisoners ?
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I put other but not really to stop fraud, to stop idiots from voting. I'm pretty sure this is against the law now but we need to ask two simple questions:

    -How many states are in the union?

    and

    -Recite the Pledge of Allegiance

    Can't do that tough **** go about your business.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    According to OK state officials, it will cost $90,000 per election in Oklahoma to pay additional election workers to process IDs. There are approximately 6 elections a year. That's a lot of money for something unnecessary.
    That's ridiculous. How long would it to look at a picture ID and see if it matched the person and the name on their list?
    Sounds like a lame excuse from OK officials.
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    Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    That's ridiculous. How long would it to look at a picture ID and see if it matched the person and the name on their list?
    Sounds like a lame excuse from OK officials.
    It would definitely slow down election workers. That means hiring additional personnel in order that all voters get processed expeditiously. Voters already have to wait in many locations, especially on heavy-turnout elections.
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