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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That would be a twisting of the scriptures.
    Let me get this straight...teaching that gay men and women are also God's children and that all human beings are sinners would be TWISTING OF SCRIPTURE?

    Good grief.



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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That would be a twisting of the scriptures. Homosexuality is a perverse sin. Christians should be able to preach against it because we follow our faith; if we twist and change the Bible continuously it will eventually have no meaning nor any trace of what it was meant to be.
    Depends on how you look at it. If you want to go your route, to God, jerking out some boner sauce or taking a grape in the produce section at the store is no different than pumping oil in a guy's fart box.
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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That would be a twisting of the scriptures. Homosexuality is a perverse sin. Christians should be able to preach against it because we follow our faith; if we twist and change the Bible continuously it will eventually have no meaning nor any trace of what it was meant to be.
    Please quote Jesus' exact words on the subject. Considering that He spoke quite a bit about many subjects, I'm sure if homosexuality is the perverse sin you make it out to be that He would have railed against it just as surely as He railed against the Pharisees.



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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Please quote Jesus' exact words on the subject. Considering that He spoke quite a bit about many subjects, I'm sure if homosexuality is the perverse sin you make it out to be that He would have railed against it just as surely as He railed against the Pharisees.
    Thanks in advance.
    The Bible does speak against homosexuality. Did Jesus mention it himself? Admittedly, he didn't talk about it. Paul the Apostle wrote about it in the New Testament, though, and it is spoken against in Leviticus in the Old Testament.

    In the King James Version, Leviticus 18:22 is translated: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
    The New Living Translation says the verse in more modern words: "Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin."

    In 1 Timothy 1:8-10, homosexuality is again spoken against, along with other sins. Here is that passage, quoted from the New Living Translation of the Bible.
    "We know that the law is good when used correctly. For the law was not intended for people who do what is right. It is for people who are lawless and rebellious, who are ungodly and sinful, who consider nothing sacred and defile what is holy, who kill their father or mother or commit other murders. The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching that comes from the glorious Good News entrusted to me by our blessed God."

    Anyway, about the topic on hand... I'd vote against that bill.

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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    The Bible does speak against homosexuality. Did Jesus mention it himself? Admittedly, he didn't talk about it. Paul the Apostle wrote about it in the New Testament, though, and it is spoken against in Leviticus in the Old Testament.

    In the King James Version, Leviticus 18:22 is translated: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
    The New Living Translation says the verse in more modern words: "Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin."

    In 1 Timothy 1:8-10, homosexuality is again spoken against, along with other sins. Here is that passage, quoted from the New Living Translation of the Bible.
    "We know that the law is good when used correctly. For the law was not intended for people who do what is right. It is for people who are lawless and rebellious, who are ungodly and sinful, who consider nothing sacred and defile what is holy, who kill their father or mother or commit other murders. The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching that comes from the glorious Good News entrusted to me by our blessed God."

    Anyway, about the topic on hand... I'd vote against that bill.
    A simple, "no, I got nuttin" would have sufficed.

    If you wish to listen Paul instead of Jesus, though, that is certainly your right. Ditto for your referencing Leviticus. I actually respect those who refuse to wear mixed fibres or eat shellfish based upon their principles.
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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    A simple, "no, I got nuttin" would have sufficed.

    If you wish to listen Paul instead of Jesus, though, that is certainly your right. Ditto for your referencing Leviticus. I actually respect those who refuse to wear mixed fibres or eat shellfish based upon their principles.
    Paul speaks for Jesus in many things. He also speaks for his church in many things. He is very clear about which is which.

    PS Jesus did speak on many things, he also left out many things that had already been covered or he new would be covered.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That would be a twisting of the scriptures. Homosexuality is a perverse sin. Christians should be able to preach against it because we follow our faith; if we twist and change the Bible continuously it will eventually have no meaning nor any trace of what it was meant to be.
    Sin is sin and none is more "perverse" than the others. Please point out where in the Bible it says to turn your back on those who have sinned? Their is indeed twisting going on here, but not by me.

    Romans 5: 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

    Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

    Do I really have to keep going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Sin is sin and none is more "perverse" than the others. Please point out where in the Bible it says to turn your back on those who have sinned? Their is indeed twisting going on here, but not by me.

    Romans 5: 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

    Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

    Do I really have to keep going?
    My view is that God loves us all and that we are all sinners. However, God has set His laws. Thus Christians seek to persuade sinners to turn from their ways instead of, well, killing them like Islamic extremists. I am in no favor of killing homosexuals b/c that is murder. I do believe Christians have the right to preach against it, though.

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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    My view is that God loves us all and that we are all sinners. However, God has set His laws. Thus Christians seek to persuade sinners to turn from their ways instead of, well, killing them like Islamic extremists. I am in no favor of killing homosexuals b/c that is murder. I do believe Christians have the right to preach against it, though.
    Yes we do. But we must be mindful of how we do it...

    Proverbs 12:18 Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.

    As with the Anglicans in Africa, we must be mindful of what we incite with our words. They messed up really bad. And now people may be put to death for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes we do. But we must be mindful of how we do it...

    Proverbs 12:18 Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.

    As with the Anglicans in Africa, we must be mindful of what we incite with our words. They messed up really bad. And now people may be put to death for it.
    Do you think Christians should not preach against homosexuality, but conform to the gentle persuasion of those who piece by piece dismantle the Bible until it becomes nothing more but: "a work of inspiration" and "do nice/good things for people to go to Heaven"? Christians must walk the narrow path of intolerance of sin, or else we, you know, walk the wide path to hell.

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