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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    So defined. I don't consider such an organization to be a political party as we have them in the United States anymore than I consider a seed a plant.
    But they are engaged in the actions you said would show them to be a political party. Does the fact they are few in number make them only a political organization?

    Political parties excel in popular governments. One might expect them to exist in a reduced form in the House of Representatives, but more as a loose coalition than a solid voting bloc; people are just too different across regions for groups like the Democratic and Republican Parties to plausibly represent their views. Are in the interests of New England conservatives fully in tune with their counter parts in the Bible Belt? In the original plan, the Senate is supposed to be filled by the state legislatures, the electoral college is supposed to exercise authority independent of the popular suggestion, and the courts are supposed to be far removed from politics. It results in an environment where careful deliberation enjoys greater authority than sentiment. The ability of national poltical parties to manipulate election outcomes in state's across the Union, through endorsements and funding and influence with the media, compromises regional interest in favor of a codified platform people can only partially agree with.
    A lot of words. What exactly do they say about your desire to criminalize political parties?



    Disagreement between two people implies one or both are ignorant.
    Or... maybe folks with different views see things from different perspectives.

    So you think half the USA citizens are just ignorant and just need to be reeducated?

    That's why people generally resent it when others disagree with them.

    I wouldn't expect people to have the same intepretations, but less attatchment to their conclusions would be a help. Partisanship is partisanship until, "My view is the right one," moves to, "My view is the right one no matter what."
    So who decides what the proper view is?

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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    A lot of words. What exactly do they say about your desire to criminalize political parties?
    The federal government can't function under the strain of political parties. Ideology isn't supposed to be as important as it is.

    Or... maybe folks with different views see things from different perspectives.
    Indeed. That's why I suggested a parliament instead of a bicameral legislature. Parliaments are based around doing what people want to the utmost extent possible. Bicameral legislatures are based on filtering it with what is reasonable.

    So you think half the USA citizens are just ignorant and just need to be reeducated?
    Not the way I would put it, but the condition characterizes more than half the American people. And you probably can't fix it with education anymore than you can make lifelong Cowboys fans into Green Bay Packers fans.

    So who decides what the proper view is?
    I said people need to be less attached to their views. Right and wrongness doesn't play into it. Please stop strawmaning my arguments.

    People need to recognize that they probably aren't consistently right. As such, emotional attachment to their opinions is insincere.
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