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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Hopefully, I know I'm not the first person to look at our democracy and get worried this thing is going to hell. I mean I'm sure some guy long dead thought the same thing and here we still are, and it definably could be worse.

    Probably started about the time George Washington declined to run for a third term as Prez. "Well, the country is going to hell in a handbasket now!" somebody surely said.

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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Here are three suggestions for fixing political polarization in the United States and the policy errors that result from it:

    1. Outlaw political parties and overt displays of partisanship.

    2. Reform our bicameral legislature into a parliament.

    3. General population consciously decides to no longer be right or left.

    These would be difficult to implement, difficult to persuade people to accept, difficult to enforce, and Number Three involves one of those classical political ideology blunders that goes "If people would just behave themselves, then we could..."

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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    These would be difficult to implement, difficult to persuade people to accept, difficult to enforce, and Number Three involves one of those classical political ideology blunders that goes "If people would just behave themselves, then we could..."
    Indeed. Reforming our politics is tantamount to cancelling everybody's favorite soap operas and sports programs.
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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Here are three suggestions for fixing political polarization in the United States and the policy errors that result from it:

    1. Outlaw political parties and overt displays of partisanship.

    2. Reform our bicameral legislature into a parliament.

    3. Promote a centrist political culture.
    This sounds like one of those cases where the cure would be far worse than the disease.
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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Here are three suggestions for fixing political polarization in the United States and the policy errors that result from it:

    1. Outlaw political parties and overt displays of partisanship.
    So if a person visits with a couple of neighbors and one decides to run and the others agree to support him, do they all go to prision or just the candidate?

    2. Reform our bicameral legislature into a parliament.
    Yeah, those countries that have a parliament have done so much better than the USA.

    3. Promote a centrist political culture.
    Thought police.... another great idea.

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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    No vote, of course..Too few options.
    I'd say that the words the patriot writes also apply to him.
    The only smart ones are those who balance their listening/reading time between the liberal and conservative viewpoints
    , and then drawing their own conclusions..
    But who has the time for this? Both sides lie and spin.

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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Most people, regardless of political stripe prefer being told what to think and then follow along.
    I fid this very hard to believe, this definitely applys NOT to me.

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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I didn't participate in the poll because I don't think it is quite that simple.

    I talk politics with people quite a lot.
    Some are intelligent but politically uninformed.
    --- sometimes this is due to a lack of intrest. Sometimes they know they are uninformed. Sometimes they don't.
    Some are not especially intelligent, but possess considerable information about political issues... which they often mis-analyze or mis-characterize.
    Some are smart and well-informed, and these come in all idelogical flavors.

    I think it is very hard to nail down what the "Average" American is like, in terms of intellect and political knowlege. I've met janitors who could have an hour-long discussion of politics and bring informed insight to the conversation. I've met university professors who were ignorant of politics yet held arrogantly stubborn positions that had no basis in reality.
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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    The majority of Americans are like the majority of people around the world. Too many people feel like they are important or someone in the world yet they are nothing but space. This forum is an excellent example of people who believe they are smarter than the rest. A little bit of elitist attitude for people who don't have much in the world or have not seen much of the world?

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    Re: The Majority of Americans Are...

    So if a person visits with a couple of neighbors and one decides to run and the others agree to support him, do they all go to prision or just the candidate?
    The main purpose of my suggestions is to illustrate the difficulty of obtaining a non-partisan society, not to actually effect one. #1 isn't necessarily an option I would support. However, outlawing political parties is different from outlawing all political organization. Parties involve institutions and protocols that one man and his neighbors don't have.

    Yeah, those countries that have a parliament have done so much better than the USA.
    No country is perfect. Countries with parliaments have an easier time dealing with political polarization though, as compromise is much easier to effect.

    I don't think it is a stretch to argue countries with parliaments have done better politically, especially in domestic politics, because it is easier to represent the many nuances in the spectrum of viewpoints. Economically and militarily, the United States enjoys advantages other nations don't have.

    The United States is actually worse than average at politics. No subtlety. But we are powerful and important enough we don't have to be particularly good to exert influence on world affairs.

    Thought police.... another great idea.
    Probably the least totalitarian of my suggestions. This is a "change from within" sort of thing. Also the one least likely to work.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 11-01-10 at 04:09 PM.
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