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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Despite being called turbolasers, SW weapons are clearly not lasers. They are visible, and propagate slower than light. This clearly precludes them being lasers.

    which would make it impossible for them to hit a federation ship attacking them at warp speed.

    game, set, match...federation.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Thats irrelevant if Federation weapons can't breach Empire shields. And we have two conflicting sources, and nothing substantive beyond that. As such, we can only find a battle between these two groups as inconclusive.
    If the Federation ships approach at lightspeed the Empire wouldn't even know they were coming and thus wouldn't have their shields up. Federation blasts them from c speed and the Empire never even knows what hit them. Either that or the Empire is forced to keep the shields up on all their ships continuously which will eventually drain their power supplies and leave them sitting ducks.

    The Federation's ability to fight from FTL speeds is the deciding factor. The Empire has nothing to counter it.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I've been to 6 Star Trek conventions.

    I win the nerd contest.
    Not even close to winning. I have EVERY Hamilton Collection Star Trek plate there is... most of the orginal cast members have signed them... I still have shrink wrapped 1st edition model kits for every version of the Enterprise... my kids bought me a reproduction phaser and communicatior from TOS... I have the mugs to go with the TOS platets...should I go on?


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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    If you read the site that I posted, there is quite a bit of data to support both those statements. Phaser and Turbolaser power is fairly easy to calculate given some things seen on-screen. Shield strength can be inferred based on weapon power.
    This isnt primary source material.
    Beyond that, I've read the site, several times.
    IIRC, the power that a SD's shields/weapons require exceeds that of the reactor output.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    The Federation's ability to fight from FTL speeds is the deciding factor. The Empire has nothing to counter it.
    Need a closing argument?
    Two words:
    Genesis Torpedo

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I've been to 6 Star Trek conventions.

    I win the nerd contest.
    I have been to 10-11 Star Trek conventions, several of them in full costume. I also spent an evening drinking beer with Jimmy Doohan. My best friend was news director at one of the local TV stations and "Scotty" agreed to do an interview after the Con. After the interview we sat around the station and drank beer and shot the **** with him for a couple of hours. very funny guy and very genuine.

    I played D&D until I was 25 and I still play EQ2 online almost every night.

    I have a large collection of the Star Trek collectors plates, action figures from TOS still in the original packaging, model kits still in the OP, box set of DVD from all the series except TNG, I have appeared in 3 amateur Star Trek films as a vulcan.

    In high school, my two best friends and I were known collectively as "the Star Trek guys"

    My nerdom is of epic proportions.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Not even close to winning. I have EVERY Hamilton Collection Star Trek plate there is... most of the orginal cast members have signed them... I still have shrink wrapped 1st edition model kits for every version of the Enterprise... my kids bought me a reproduction phaser and communicatior from TOS... I have the mugs to go with the TOS platets...should I go on?

    I have you all beat....



    Me at a Star Trek convention in Chicago.

    King freaking nerd!
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    awesome Blackdog... Awesome!

    I've been to one convention. twas awesome, didn't have anything to dress up in though.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    awesome Blackdog... Awesome!

    I've been to one convention. twas awesome, didn't have anything to dress up in though.
    Buy some Federation underoos, hehehehe. They used to get really angry about that particular Klingon insult.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    my kids bought me a reproduction phaser and communicatior from TOS...
    ah...but do you also have the tricorder?
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