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Thread: Federation v Empire

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I am a huge nerd too. And the real fact is, you'd have to be a huge Nerd to understand what the hell he's talking about.

    My nerdom is pretty strong, to the point where I absolutely had to have a Star Trek uniform for Halloween, ended up with an TOS Monty Scott uniform, it'll work lol.
    I dressed up as Anakin when Episode I came out and then again when Episode III did on opening night. Had lightsaber duels with people. It was legit nerd fun.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    According to the numbers, PURELY based on the numbers from the technical manuals... a X Wing in theory, could sit stationary and blow a hole through the hull of the Enterprise D in a single shot, penetrating their shields.

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    That's nice but it doesn't jibe with what you see in the movies and shows.

    Blasters inflict relatively small wounds. Reference Princess Leia getting shot in front of the shield generator bunker in Episode 6.

    Phasers are capable not merely of disintegrating an entire person, but worse. A hand-phaser in TNG could blow a gaping hole in the hull on full power. Reference Picard talking to the Earth woman in the movie where the Borg go to Earth back in time, when Z Cochrane is preparing to test his warp drive.

    A hit from Darth Vader's TIE fighter on Luke's X-wing did some damage and disabled (but did not destroy!) R2D2, in Episode 4 at the Death Star battle. IIRC you saw the blaster bolt actually hit R2D2, but he was repairable. This would argue for something whose destructive power is more comparable to a machine gun.

    I think this guy's figures are off.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I dressed up as Anakin when Episode I came out and then again when Episode III did on opening night. Had lightsaber duels with people. It was legit nerd fun.
    Yeah dude, I mean what else are you gonna do.

    I'm the guy who went in a Star Trek T Shirt and starfleet academy dog tags to the newest movie.

    Also the dumbass to goes to the movie invictus in a Springboks Rugby Jersey.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I have to go with the Empire on this one due to numbers and resources.
    Yeah, but... when your ability to project force it limited to how long it takes for a Federation ship to show up and blast you to smithereens, neither of those things means much for long.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You are leaving out far to many variables. What time period?
    The days of Kirk.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think the greater tech levels of the ST universe would give an edge to the Federation's forces.
    If my memory of the SW movies is accurate, the shielding tech of the SW universe (and thus, the Empire) is far behind that of the Federation.
    SW shields seemed simply designed to deflect incoming fire, but could be overwhelmed by repeated strikes.
    On the other hand, ST shields seem to be multi-purpose and very adaptable, so tuning them to simply be unaffected by laser fire seems very possible.
    I note that ST energy weapons were adjustable, while SW energy weapons were much less so, at least judging from the movies.
    What no one here (except DocAR) considers is that Fed ships fight at FTL speeds; SW ships fight at sub-light. There's no evidence that SW ships can even SEE ships moving FTL, much less shoot at them with sub-light weapons.

    So, in a fight, the Fed ships scoot around the arena at 2c, and lob weapons into an enemy that cannot shoot back - the fed ships dont even need to power their shields...

    Doesn't tale long to figure out how long that lasts.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    The empire wins by a landslide. They have a huge edge in numbers, and a huge edge in weapons technology. The federation doesn't stand a chance.

    As a note, here's a link to a site that does a very in-depth comparison of the two universes' technology.

    Star Wars vs Star Trek Essays: Star Wars vs Star Trek in Five Minutes
    Read this before, good for a laugh.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Warp Drive would be the deciding factor. ST ships can fight while traveling at superluminal velocities, and hitting targets.
    This man GETS IT.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    The problem with this tactic is that federation weapons aren't powerful enough to penetrate the shields of most imperial ships. It would be like shooting spitballs at a tank.
    The empire would also have the edge in mobility, since hyperdrive is much faster than warp drive.
    There's nothing to on film support either of these statements.

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