You;re setting up an argument you know you can win, for the purpose of winning it.
Well sure -- they still stand, and so the premise that they support -- that the Feds win - is sound.This is exactly what I'm talking about. Every one of the points you make here is one you've made before.
Whenever you try to refute one of the aruments, I defend it. That's how its supposed to work.
Well, if you aren't willing to accept realityNo new ground is being covered in the argument about space warfare. I've presented evidence that I feel clearly negates the federation's ability to fight from warp with impunity, and you have made it clear that you don't find that evidence compelling. It's clear that neither of us is going to change our minds. We can continue rehashing these same points until the cows come home, but frankly, that bores me, and it does nothing to make those points any more or less compelling than they were the first time they were raised.
OK - fair enough. Draw.
It does... once you consider just how inane anything from TNG on really is. In my world. TNG doesnt exist.I will make note of one thing you mentioned. I'm perfectly willing to use the 'only what you see pal' style of debate, and leave out any other sources of information (i.e. books, games, etc.) from both franchises. However, limiting the discussion from the ST side to only the original series makes no sense.
Its not a matter of picking and choosing, its a matter of the series jumping the shark.
You might also consider how this applies to SW - expecially the 'game stuff' that we both agree has nothing to support it (like 200GT laser blasts). Like TNG, these things were written by people who havan't a clue.
Good conversation - thanks a bunch!