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    Re: Federation v Empire

    I think the greater tech levels of the ST universe would give an edge to the Federation's forces.

    If my memory of the SW movies is accurate, the shielding tech of the SW universe (and thus, the Empire) is far behind that of the Federation.

    SW shields seemed simply designed to deflect incoming fire, but could be overwhelmed by repeated strikes.

    On the other hand, ST shields seem to be multi-purpose and very adaptable, so tuning them to simply be unaffected by laser fire seems very possible.

    I note that ST energy weapons were adjustable, while SW energy weapons were much less so, at least judging from the movies.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    The empire wins by a landslide. They have a huge edge in numbers, and a huge edge in weapons technology. The federation doesn't stand a chance.

    As a note, here's a link to a site that does a very in-depth comparison of the two universes' technology.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    It all depends on who can convince the Q to be on their side.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    The United Federation of Planets easily, more powerful technology, more powerful ships. And in many ways, more resources to pull from.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    The federation would be significantly more adaptable technology-wise along the plots of the shows/movies.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    On the heels of the Star Wars v Star Trek poll...

    In a war between the Federation and the Empire, who wins?
    That depends. Will the Federation be able to make allies with other factions? Because remember a key part of the Federation's ability to make war is, ironically, their ability at diplomacy to make alliances.


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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The Empire lost to the Rebellion much like the British lost to the Americans in the revolutionary war, the Rebellion used gorilla warfare to defeat the Empire(also having Luke take out their leadership helped), and didn't fight them straight up, like the Federation would. If they did they would have been obliterated.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by DocAR View Post
    Agreed. The Federation would not be dealing with Jedi, but Sith.

    Don't think for a minute that the Sith would be beyond using their power to "influence" Feddie higher-ups to surrender power to them. Don't think the Federation wouldn't negotiate with them, either. That would be the REAL threat the Federation would face.

    Now, in an out-right battle, any "negotiation" with Sith OR Jedi would be with overloaded Photon Torpedoes, which would end the "talks" quick-like. Either are impressive in close combat, but once that hit 80,000 km away, they're in Overload range. That's when the pain starts.
    Well, Sith hardly matters under the regime of the Galactic Empire, considering the Rule of Two. And yes, I know there are Dark Side users during that era - however, they are not nearly as well trained as proper Sith are.

    Now, if we were talking about the Sith Empire under the Rule of One, it would be a different story, and such a thing would be a definite factor.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Warp Drive would be the deciding factor. ST ships can fight while traveling at superluminal velocities, and hitting targets.

    SW technology shows no such capacity. Blaster bolts, travelling at less than lightspeed, would be unable to hit starships travelling at warp speed. The starships, however, could make strafing passes against the relatively-immobile Star Destroyers/etc and destroy them practically at will.

    In a sense, it would be a lot like the old Soviet Union vs USA conventional military argument. The Soviets went for quantity and used their weapons systems like clubs; the USA went for quality and used their weapons systems like fencing rapiers. Field engagements between US tanks and Russian made tanks used by Iraq revealed that a handful of US tanks could and did engage and destroy a hundred Russian-made tanks in short order. The US targeting systems and weapons were longer ranged and more accurate, and our tanks could shoot with pinpoint accuracy while moving at top speed, making them hard targets.


    Similarly, ST ships could fly by Star Destroyers at warp and destroy them at will. Warp drive would be the decisive factor. The only thing hyperdrive would be good for is running away from the battle after Starfleet kicks their assets.

    For another example, think about what one well-trained sniper with a modern .308 semi-auto, and a 4wheel ATV for transportation, could do to an entire company of Colonial era infantry armed with smoothbore muskets. He could kill several from a far greater distance than they could respond, then move to a new location faster than they could move, wait and do it again.

    SW vs ST would be a lot like that. The Empire's massive resources would simply make for a "target rich environment".


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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That's not true, though there were many more padawans that actual Jedi. There were some Jedi at the Jedi Temple, including the chief Jedi instructor Cin Drallig.
    True, but nothing Vader couldn't handle. He also attacked the Temple with the clone troopers.
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