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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    if they don't know they are coming, they probably won't have their shields up.
    Empire ships have no reason to drop their shields, whereas a Fed ship might drop shields to enable use of the transporter.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Empire ships have no reason to drop their shields, whereas a Fed ship might drop shields to enable use of the transporter.
    Unless in or expecting combat, neither ST nor SW ships would operate with their shields up - the power drain is significant over time, and thus burns unnecessary fuel.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Wow "Federation and Empire" that is a game that I have not played in years. Used to love the Lyrans.

    The older brother...

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    Do you/have you played SFB?

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The firing ship would have moved out of range before effective phaser fire could be placed on target.
    Not so. There is ample film evdence that shows effective phaser fire from/against FTL targets. ST ships have sufficinet FC to allow this, else the weapons would be useless.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Then its pretty much game over for the Federation. Unless they could keep up with and eliminate Empire shpis before they arrived at their target (presumably a Federation planet), they couldn't hope to take out all the Empire ships before the planet is glassed. And this isn't even considering the use of a Death Star(s). If the Empire wanted, imagine how many Death Stars they could throw at the Fed's with their enormous resources...
    Remember: It takes only a small Fed ship a few moments to destroy an entire Imperial world, and the Imperials have no way to defend against it.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Remember: It takes only a small Fed ship a few moments to destroy an entire Imperial world, and the Imperials have no way to defend against it.
    How? ten char
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Do you/have you played SFB?
    Back in the day as it was first. I never liked it though, it did not feel like what we were seeing in the movies or TV shows.

    FASA's "Star Trek II Starship Combat Simular" was far superior in every way. I still own the game and all it's add on boks.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Well, star trek ships are pretty slow, at least in terms of galaxy-spanning travel. If only on-film sources are being used, then there's nothing that directly states 'SW hyperdrives are X fast', but some quotes from the characters allude to the fact that hyperdrive is MUCH faster than warp drive.

    SW ships can't attack from hyperdrive the way ST ships can from warp, but being able to move between battles faster will be a big advantage.

    You know, that's true.

    I think that tactically, a handful of ST ships could wipe out a large fleet of Star Destroyers and fighters, primarily because of the warp drive advantage and being able to attack at superluminal speeds.

    However, you can win lots of battles and still lose the war, if the enemy has the capacity to choose his battlegrounds by means of superior mobility and greater resources.

    It casts doubts on the issue anyway...

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Good good, the Empire is winning. Cue the Imperial March.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Then its pretty much game over for the Federation. Unless they could keep up with and eliminate Empire shpis before they arrived at their target (presumably a Federation planet), they couldn't hope to take out all the Empire ships before the planet is glassed. And this isn't even considering the use of a Death Star(s). If the Empire wanted, imagine how many Death Stars they could throw at the Fed's with their enormous resources...
    You're assuming that there are more than one Death Stars. In the film canon, there are only two Death Stars and they both got destroyed, so for this exercise they wouldn't exist.

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