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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    There's no evidence that the shields in SW can block transporters since transporter tech doesn't not exist in SW. We have no idea about strength either.
    I don't see why they couldn't block transporters; both shields are known as deflector shields, and their operating features are roughly the same. We don't have anything to show that these shields couldn't block transporters, so this circumstantial evidence is pretty much all we have.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Well, that being the case, the Feds just need to drop the Imperial shields w/ weapons fire.
    Pretty much, and it becomes a question of whether the Fed's can drop all the Empire ships, and Death Stars before they're over run.

    True... but they CAN remain at high warp for at LEAST weeks on end - more than enough time to decide a tactical engagement.
    True, but eventually, they do have to stop, and thats where the Empire's resources come into play. Its like a wing of mig-23's against 4 F-15's who are protecting an AWACS. Eventually, the F-15's get either unlucky, or they call winchester and have to disengage, leaving their AWACS open.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The Galactic Empire vastly outnumbers the United Federation of Planets. I mean, overwhelmingly outnumbers. In addition, they have the Dark Side of the Force. Emperor Palpatine could just use "Battle Meditation," and win basically any engagement he is presiding over.
    Yes but Data was the height of logic and could whisk away any thought of the force.

    Really it depends on what universe they are battling in, if in the Star Wars universe, the advantage is real.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I don't see why they couldn't block transporters; both shields are known as deflector shields, and their operating features are roughly the same. We don't have anything to show that these shields couldn't block transporters, so this circumstantial evidence is pretty much all we have.
    I'm going to err on the side that says that they do operate differently and do not do the exact same thing.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Its outcome is soooooooooo easily decided!

    A ship with Laser Cannons and Warp 1 that moves like a aircraft carrier. It has a so-so tractor beam. And I think has a decent force field. The most adventagous thing it DOES have is Darth Vader. That is ONE SHIP. Other ships might have a Sith. They can use the Force but how effectively against 400+ military personnel per Federation ship? OH! It can launch maybe 50 (at most) shuttle-type craft with hardly ANY shields
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    A Ship that has muti-phase phasers AND powerful Photon Torpedoes that can corner like a corvette AND with a Force Field AND heavy shields! Plus it could go to Warp 10 (if need be). It has a VERY powerful tractor beam AND can fire multiple phaser burts at the same TIME! It can scan and target every primary target point on a ship of the Empire and knock them out. PLUS it has a HUGE deflector dish. If that isnt enough a self destruct of a warp core that would turn anything in the surrounding area into bread crumbs! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH!!!!!!!!! it has TRANSPORTERS!!!!!
    And that is just ONE SHIP

    Anyone who thinks the Empire would survive would be...... wrong.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I don't see why they couldn't block transporters; both shields are known as deflector shields, and their operating features are roughly the same. We don't have anything to show that these shields couldn't block transporters, so this circumstantial evidence is pretty much all we have.
    I'd say a shield is a shield and transporters are stopped by shields.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Pretty much, and it becomes a question of whether the Fed's can drop all the Empire ships, and Death Stars before they're over run.
    Well, OK - -but if the Imperials cannot shoot at the Fed ships, what's to stop them from doing that?

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Well, OK - -but if the Imperials cannot shoot at the Fed ships, what's to stop them from doing that?
    The massive resources of the Empire. I don't know a whole lot about the speed of ST vs. SW ships, but I know that ST ships can attack during warp. If we assume they travel at the same speed, or even if the ST ships move faster, they'll have to move considerably faster to take out all the Empire ships and Death Stars before the Fed planets get destroyed/glassed.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I'm going to err on the side that says that they do operate differently and do not do the exact same thing.
    It hardly matters whether SW shields can stop transporters or not. Transporters are finicky, and can be prevented by a LOT of different stuff. Various forms of radiation, solar flares, dense metal, even thick layers of rock, and oddly enough, telekinetic powers have all been shown to screw up transporters in the past. I guarantee that as soon as the higher-ups in the imperial military realized that transporters were being used against them, they would come up with something that could block the effect. It wouldn't be hard, and it wouldn't take long.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I don't know a whole lot about the speed of ST vs. SW ships
    Well, star trek ships are pretty slow, at least in terms of galaxy-spanning travel. If only on-film sources are being used, then there's nothing that directly states 'SW hyperdrives are X fast', but some quotes from the characters allude to the fact that hyperdrive is MUCH faster than warp drive.

    SW ships can't attack from hyperdrive the way ST ships can from warp, but being able to move between battles faster will be a big advantage.
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