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    Re: Federation v Empire

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    How is it not primary source material? It's calculated based on things seen on-screen. It doesn't get any more primary-source than that.
    What seen on screen is primary source. The calculations are not.

    I'm not sure how you're figuring this...
    Your source:
    Star Wars: Acclamator troop transport
    Heavy guns: 2.4 million megatons (200 gigatons per shot from each turret, 12 turrets)
    See the issue here?

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What seen on screen is primary source. The calculations are not.
    Okay, I'll agree to that, but then very few of the numbers bandied about for star trek are primary source either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Your source:

    See the issue here?
    Well, those numbers come from one of the many 'technical manuals' that has been released for both franchises over the years (I believe). Some people count those as canon, others don't. It really just depends on what sources you want to allow in the debate.

    Weapon power is pretty easy to calculate based on what's seen on-screen though. The asteroid field scene in TESB and the death star superlaser blasting alderaan are the two scenes I've seen used to do the calculations. Those calculations are pretty sound, and give numbers similar to what's posted up there. Claiming that the reactors in SW ships are incapable of supporting this level of power output then is ridiculous, since they can clearly do so (it's shown on-screen).

    Specifically, the claim I've heard made that SW ships use simple fusion reactors is way off base. They quite obviously have something better than that.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    On the heels of the Star Wars v Star Trek poll...

    In a war between the Federation and the Empire, who wins?
    If it were a straight fight, the Federation would win, no contest. Leser blasters vs quantum torpedowes; light speed vs warp speed; I don't even know what vs cloaking divice.

    But it wouldn't be a fair fight.

    The empire could just use the Federation's enemeys as the Dominion did; only the Emporer is a much wiser evil ruler than the Founders, so he would win.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    It all depends on who is writing the screenplay...

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Specifically, the claim I've heard made that SW ships use simple fusion reactors is way off base. They quite obviously have something better than that.
    They are fusion reactors, but those reactors use Unobtainium instead of uranium.
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Star Wars: Acclamator troop transport
    Heavy guns: 2.4 million megatons (200 gigatons per shot from each turret, 12 turrets)

    That's just ridiculous. Seven shots from one turret could render the Earth's entire surface uninhabitable. There would never have been any need for the Death Star.

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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If it were a straight fight, the Federation would win, no contest. Leser blasters vs quantum torpedowes; light speed vs warp speed; I don't even know what vs cloaking divice.But it wouldn't be a fair fight.

    The empire could just use the Federation's enemeys as the Dominion did; only the Emporer is a much wiser evil ruler than the Founders, so he would win.
    The Empire has cloaking devices as well, but they aren't nearly as effective as the Federation cloaking devices
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    Re: Federation v Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The Empire has cloaking devices as well, but they aren't nearly as effective as the Federation cloaking devices
    The Federation does not use cloaking devices. The Klingon's and Romulans do.
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