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Thread: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The Internet
    Space Travel, Satellites
    Eisenhower Highway system
    Atomic Energy
    "Government" scientists did discover/invent the atomic bomb and our government certainly accelerated "Space Travel".
    Private enterprise for the former would have taken far longer and cost more, of this I am sure.
    Joe Biden is correct, the Libertarians are wrong.

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    rolleyes Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    "Government" scientists did discover/invent the atomic bomb and our government certainly accelerated "Space Travel".
    Private enterprise for the former would have taken far longer and cost more, of this I am sure.
    Joe Biden is correct, the Libertarians are wrong.
    Biden said "every single" invention required government. He was wrong if even one invention did not need government.

    The "Libertarians" are correct because we can count.

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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Biden said "every single" invention required government. He was wrong if even one invention did not need government.

    The "Libertarians" are correct because we can count.
    If you go by his literal words, yes.
    If you go by what he obviously meant, no.
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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The technicians there recieved "government" educations.
    The government police protected the place.
    The government military kept the Japanese and Germans and English away..
    Why do people "think" that government is bad, that it is unnecessary.
    What is "government" anyway ?
    Think.
    Other than 'your opinion', where is your evidence the technicians behind 'every major idea in the last... blah blah blah' got government educations? Please provide a link to your source, or cite a source that we can verify.

    The police work for the locality, not the federal government.

    You're really reaching here.

    Please show me where I said 'government is bad'. I dare you.

    You must know, you just talked about how they provided technicians with jobs, police and military for their protection, etc.

    Come on... think.

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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you go by his literal words, yes.
    If you go by what he obviously meant, no.
    He meant something other than what he said?

    You're reaching.

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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Not that I think Joe Biden is a genius, but what exactly is wrong with wanting to split Iraq into three different parts?
    lol... probably a subject for a different thread.

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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    I'm still hoping earthworm comes back and posts up some links so I can read up on all the government did at Murray Hill Bell Labs.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Gilette Mach 3 did not require government. All it needed was some good marketing and some guys with 5 o'clock shadow.

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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Gilette Mach 3 did not require government. All it needed was some good marketing and some guys with 5 o'clock shadow.
    Same with Fender Guitars, or Gibson even. In the Government's past, they disliked rock & roll even though they did allow Elvis movies to be made when he acted like he was in the Navy.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Joe Biden: Great ideas of the last 200 years needed government

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    He meant something other than what he said?

    You're reaching.
    No, YOU are the one parsing his offhand choice of words, like it's a contract.
    Why don't you instead talk about his general point that government plays an important role in technology, instead of doing the lawyerly crap.
    Last edited by Kandahar; 10-29-10 at 12:23 AM.
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