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  • Intelligent Design

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  • Creationism

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  • Every theory in this area

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  • Only these 3 or 2 of these three

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You keep claiming to have proof of creationism and how old the earth is, but you haven't provided anything more than links to sites that are indeed bias. In fact, you didn't even provide a direct link to where the proof (in form of research, studies, evidence) is exactly within those links. You haven't even given what that proof is.

    Evolution has plenty of proof that can be pointed directly to and scientific research to back it up. The exact method of how evolution works certainly has flaws in the current theories, however, they still have a lot of supporting evidence.

    So again, where is your scientific proof of a young earth or of creationism rather than evolution? What exactly does it entail?
    Did you read any of the links? Evolution has plausibility but no proof. There is no proof that any organism arose from any ancestor. There is no genome with a specific mutation(s) that gave rise to a new trait. You can claim my evidence is biased, but did you read any of their points? Here is a list of young age evidence ‘Young’ age of the Earth & Universe Q&A
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The same thing can easily be said about evolutionists and the fact that we have proof that the world is far, far younger than billions of years.
    And for some reason the only scientists out there that find and understand these "proofs" just happen to be uber Christians and hell bound on proving their Religious views.

    Isn't it amazing that science and scientists are amazing and awe inspiring to most people, and that scientific discoveries tend to be lauded as absolute monumental occasions attributed to the greatness of mankind... unless that discovery happens to not agree with your religion. Then it's pure hokum that has no proof and can easily be disproven, even if it does have enough peer reviewed articles written on it to fill a few libraries by itself...

    If there were any real evidence against evolution you'd better believe that every biologist in the world would want their hands on it and want to take part in it's discovery, because it would mean instant fame and notoriety and put your name in the history books. That's why science works as well as it does.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Nothing in this discussion that I have said. Would you PLEASE go back and read my thoughts on the subject. Stop assuming.

    I did read your thoughts. You said you are an old Earth Christian. Now what evidence is there for "God."?

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Of course there could be a "creator" but what evidence is there for one?
    Again what does this have to do with my reply? Oh let me fill you in nothing.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    And for some reason the only scientists out there that find and understand these "proofs" just happen to be uber Christians and hell bound on proving their Religious views.

    Isn't it amazing that science and scientists are amazing and awe inspiring to most people, and that scientific discoveries tend to be lauded as absolute monumental occasions attributed to the greatness of mankind... unless that discovery happens to not agree with your religion. Then it's pure hokum that has no proof and can easily be disproven, even if it does have enough peer reviewed articles written on it to fill a few libraries by itself...

    If there were any real evidence against evolution you'd better believe that every biologist in the world would want their hands on it and want to take part in it's discovery, because it would mean instant fame and notoriety and put your name in the history books. That's why science works as well as it does.
    Are you kidding? Scientists vilify those against evolution and want to brand them as ideological morons. I have never seen rational or ethical treatment of a creation scientist. Science is very "partisan" if you will. We all glean from the same data, but come out with different answers based on interpretation and testing of the data.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I did read your thoughts. You said you are an old Earth Christian. Now what evidence is there for "God."?
    So what? It has nothing to do with my points or anything I have said.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Did you read any of the links? Evolution has plausibility but no proof.
    Digsbe, my friend. This is absolutely not true. The evidence is there even on a microbiological level. To deny this makes that web site even less credible than I thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There is no proof that any organism arose from any ancestor. There is no genome with a specific mutation(s) that gave rise to a new trait. You can claim my evidence is biased, but did you read any of their points? Here is a list of young age evidence ‘Young’ age of the Earth & Universe Q&A
    This is only a very small part of a huge picture. To deny the proof we do have is a fools folly.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Honestly, very few people actually believe in random natural evolution where all the matter in the universe appeared out of nowhere and then perfectly organized itself into the intensely complex world we see today. Basic simple scientific observation tells us this is impossible. Don't believe me? Find a perfect vacuum and then tell me how long you think it will take for a universe to appear there. But at any rate, we shouldn't be teaching the religion of atheism without balance. And if there is a god, then everything should be on the table.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Are you kidding? Scientists vilify those against evolution and want to brand them as ideological morons. I have never seen rational or ethical treatment of a creation scientist. Science is very "partisan" if you will. We all glean from the same data, but come out with different answers based on interpretation and testing of the data.
    No we don't glean from the same data, lol. Scientists find that layers of rock towards the bottom have more simplistic forms of organisms and dates to be much older than the upper layer of rock and they draw the logical conclusions. Creationists then scream bias and the absurd idea that a gigantic flood created all of the fossils, of course layered from older strata to newer strata and with simpler organisms towards the bottom mean while saying that no dating system is accurate because none of it says 6000 years ago.

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