View Poll Results: Which should be taught in school science classes?

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  • Evolution

    80 78.43%
  • Intelligent Design

    1 0.98%
  • Creationism

    0 0%
  • Every theory in this area

    11 10.78%
  • Only these 3 or 2 of these three

    3 2.94%
  • None of these

    4 3.92%
  • Other

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    If it's shown that evolution can be a product of chance, then ID is false.

    As for the rest, that's for an ID proponent to work out isn't it?
    How do you test ID itself?
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i kind of am an id proponent, but still don't think it should ever be taught in schools.
    Psychology isn't a science, It's an unprovable theory...

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Psychology isn't a science, It's an unprovable theory...
    No, it's an unprovable hypothesis. To be a scientific theory, it has to pass peer review. Since it has absolutely no evidence whatsoever, it cannot be more than a hypothesis and a failed one at that.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How do you test ID itself?
    You can't... They're no tests for theory, only more theory...

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    You can't... They're no tests for theory, only more theory...

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How do you test ID itself?
    Do you deny that ID is falsifiable? The burden is on you to demonstrate it. The burden is on the ID proponent to devise a test. Meanwhile, they deserve the chance to air their theory without being preemptively shot down by know-it-alls who do a disservice to the scientific method with their own brand of dogmatism.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Do you deny that ID is falsifiable? The burden is on you to demonstrate it. The burden is on the ID proponent to devise a test. Meanwhile, they deserve the chance to air their theory without being preemptively shot down by know-it-alls who do a disservice to the scientific method with their own brand of dogmatism.
    ID proponents have never managed to present a case for falsifiability. They cannot produce evidence that it's correct, nor can they produce a means to demonstrate it is incorrect. That means it's not science. Even the courts have ruled that ID is religion masquerading as science.

    If they want to be in science class, they need to prove it's science. Until they can do so, it doesn't belong there. Of course, they're not even trying to be scientific, they spend most of their time playing on the emotions, not the intelligence, of the public.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, it's an unprovable hypothesis. To be a scientific theory, it has to pass peer review. Since it has absolutely no evidence whatsoever, it cannot be more than a hypothesis and a failed one at that.
    Actually, our approach is all wrong... It doesn't take children's behavior characteristics into consideration. If 90 percent of the kids believe in ID, it should be encouraged. Kids social lives are much more important that any hypothesis.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Do you deny that ID is falsifiable? The burden is on you to demonstrate it. The burden is on the ID proponent to devise a test. Meanwhile, they deserve the chance to air their theory without being preemptively shot down by know-it-alls who do a disservice to the scientific method with their own brand of dogmatism.
    It is not a theory until it is testable. They have to devise a test before it can be considered a theory and as such the burden is on them.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They have to devise a test before it can be considered a theory and as such the burden is on them.
    That's what I said. Why are you being so antagonistic when you are saying the exact same thing I am? Just because I want to give ID proponents a fair chance to be heard?

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