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  • Intelligent Design

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  • Every theory in this area

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  • Only these 3 or 2 of these three

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, an unsupported theory would be a hypothesis.
    Which is a synonym for theory. Theory and hypothesis are generally the same thing, only it is assumed that hypothesis has no evidence yet to support it but a theory usually has some sort of evidence, even if it is anecdotal or based on "there has to be something".

    Theory - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    This is how we have theoretical physics. These guys are basing their theories on mathematics in general, but also on pretty much any other thing that might be true just from observations of the universe, then looking for ways to prove the theories correct.

    If I said that my theory was that aliens have been visiting Earth for the past 100 million years and messing around with species and life on Earth in general just to see what happens, it would still be a theory. I have no proof and would need to find a way to actually prove it if I ever wanted this to be a widely accepted theory and to get it taught in the classroom. This is why I have that particular choice in the poll. To see if there are some people who would approve of teaching absolutely any theory on the development of life on this planet, rather than ones that we just have proof to support.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    The word theory when it is used in science has a much more clear and exact meaning than the word theory in colloquial English.

    Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Every theory should be taught. Evolution has serious flaws that go untold. It's also scientifically dishonest to present 1 flawed theory and ignore others because they include a creator.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The word theory when it is used in science has a much more clear and exact meaning than the word theory in colloquial English.

    Edit: Scientific theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Point conceded.

    But my original intent was to get a discussion going on what should be taught in science, not the names of those things that are taught. Most people understand theory as an idea of how something might be or might come to be, even if this doesn't take into account the science definition of theory. By stating the option as "any theory", it would be more likely to get feedback from those who may believe in those other theories that lead to our existence, even if they wouldn't be considered actual scientific theories overall.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Every theory should be taught. Evolution has serious flaws that go untold. It's also scientifically dishonest to present 1 flawed theory and ignore others because they include a creator.
    We wouldn't have enough time to teach every theory within science in science classes. I could come up with several theories/hypotheses for how life became the way it is on Earth right now, including my alien theory above and that we are all just a part of one big dream of a baby dragon. This is why it is necessary to only teach about those things in science that actually have proof to support them, even if there are flaws within some small parts of the theory.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Every theory should be taught. Evolution has serious flaws that go untold. It's also scientifically dishonest to present 1 flawed theory and ignore others because they include a creator.
    dig.....creationism is not science, it's religion, and as such should not be taught as science. creationism has no basis in fact whatsoever. do you really believe the earth is only 6000 years old?

    fwiw, i believe in god, and somehow still believe in evolution. we'll know when we know, and i'm fine with that. but let's not pretend that creationsim is science, because we all know it's not. it's NOT credible.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    We wouldn't have enough time to teach every theory within science in science classes. I could come up with several theories/hypotheses for how life became the way it is on Earth right now, including my alien theory above and that we are all just a part of one big dream of a baby dragon. This is why it is necessary to only teach about those things in science that actually have proof to support them, even if there are flaws within some small parts of the theory.
    I think we would have enough time. Evolution doesn't need to be taught in detail, nor do the others. I would want them discussing the scientific facts between the theories and not simply (there is no God and everything is random) or (God did this one day 2 according to the Bible). There is proof supporting creationism/ID and serious flaws in evolution that go untaught. I think all scientific theories should be discussed in regards to how life formed.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    dig.....creationism is not science, it's religion, and as such should not be taught as science. creationism has no basis in fact whatsoever. do you really believe the earth is only 6000 years old?

    fwiw, i believe in god, and somehow still believe in evolution. we'll know when we know, and i'm fine with that. but let's not pretend that creationsim is science, because we all know it's not. it's NOT credible.
    Creationism is science. It's the scientific theory that God created life. There are scientific proofs supporting it, there are absolutely facts and scientific basis for holding a creationists scientific view point. And yes, I do believe that the earth is several thousand years old based on scientific observation.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think we would have enough time. Evolution doesn't need to be taught in detail, nor do the others. I would want them discussing the scientific facts between the theories and not simply (there is no God and everything is random) or (God did this one day 2 according to the Bible). There is proof supporting creationism/ID and serious flaws in evolution that go untaught. I think all scientific theories should be discussed in regards to how life formed.



    Creationism is science. It's the scientific theory that God created life. There are scientific proofs supporting it, there are absolutely facts and scientific basis for holding a creationists scientific view point. And yes, I do believe that the earth is several thousand years old based on scientific observation.
    please provide some facts that bolster your claim that creationism is factual.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Anything which innately calls upon the supernatural is not proper realm of science. For it to be a scientific theory there must be a way of measuring the system. Gods are immeasurable systems and thus science cannot comment on them. If a theory has innately at its core some supernatural or god like creature, it cannot be a theory of science since the ultimate premise is untestable.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Point conceded.

    But my original intent was to get a discussion going on what should be taught in science, not the names of those things that are taught. Most people understand theory as an idea of how something might be or might come to be, even if this doesn't take into account the science definition of theory. By stating the option as "any theory", it would be more likely to get feedback from those who may believe in those other theories that lead to our existence, even if they wouldn't be considered actual scientific theories overall.
    But we are talking about science class, and for something to be called a theory, it needs to fit the scientific definition of a theory.

    Anyways for it to be discussed in a science class it should have some evidence to back it up. We can't give the same scientific credence to people just making up crap, without any scientific backing.
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