View Poll Results: Which should be taught in school science classes?

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  • Evolution

    80 78.43%
  • Intelligent Design

    1 0.98%
  • Creationism

    0 0%
  • Every theory in this area

    11 10.78%
  • Only these 3 or 2 of these three

    3 2.94%
  • None of these

    4 3.92%
  • Other

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Try, some sunday schools do. They teach the possibility that Genesis 1 is figurative language. They don't get into specifics, but they bring up the possibility that evolution is true.
    You're sure about that?

    Does your church do that?
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    You're sure about that?

    Does your church do that?
    We had a sunday school teacher who taught that.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Then why are we debating creation versus evolution? Instead we should be debating macro speciation versus non-macro speciation. Since we have absolutely no evidence for macro speciation, I would argue that evolution can be dropped entirely and we can start over with "We really just don't know."
    We are not debating creation versus evolution, we are debating whether creation belongs in a science class.

    The only ones who want to debate creation versus evolution are the ones who think that somehow evolution challenges creation since it does not jive with some biblical math (it say nothing on the subject, nor does it have anything to do with it)
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    ... Darwin himself defeated the idea of evolution in his Origin of Species by saying that if his theory is correct, then the fossil record must contain thousands of completed chains of fully developed links between one species and the next. Not just one missing link or a handful of fossils that bear semblance to two species, Darwin said thousands of completed chains would be found in the fossil record. If Darwin doesn't convince you, I have an even better argument.
    Give a quote please.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Darwin defeated evolution in his Origin of Species. I've been through that already here. Can you give me one example in the fossil record of a complete chain of links between one species and another?
    Just because there's no immediate evidence in your hand and discovered doesn't mean it *doesn't* exist - that merely means it's *hasn't* been found.

    The conditions needed to legitimately preserve such evidence isn't a constant - there's no real telling of how much "evidence" of this nature has been lost due *to* nature - and time.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Just because there's no immediate evidence in your hand and discovered doesn't mean it *doesn't* exist - that merely means it's *hasn't* been found.

    The conditions needed to legitimately preserve such evidence isn't a constant - there's no real telling of how much "evidence" of this nature has been lost due *to* nature - and time.
    for every transitional fossil found bridging a gap in the "chain" there are two new missing ones that suddenly appear
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    friday, after addressing my other posts could you tell how old you think the Earth is?

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarcho-fascist View Post
    Give a quote please.
    “The number of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed must have been enormous. Why then is not every geological formation full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated chain; and this, perhaps is the most serious objection which can be urged against my theory”.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarcho-fascist View Post
    friday, after addressing my other posts could you tell how old you think the Earth is?
    I have no idea how old the earth is. I suppose the substance that makes up the earth could be an infinite number of years old.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    “The number of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed must have been enormous. Why then is not every geological formation full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated chain; and this, perhaps is the most serious objection which can be urged against my theory”.
    Charles Darwin.
    The Origin of Species - 1859.
    The rest of this quoted paragraph:

    The explanation lies, as I believe, in the extreme imperfection of the geological record.
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