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  • Evolution

    80 78.43%
  • Intelligent Design

    1 0.98%
  • Creationism

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  • Every theory in this area

    11 10.78%
  • Only these 3 or 2 of these three

    3 2.94%
  • None of these

    4 3.92%
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    sure, but not as part of evolution since they are completely unrelated.

    My turn, do you think, these subjects are part of evolution?
    Sure, unless you are arguing that the first life form was created, it had to evolve from something. Somehow matter had to combine in such a way as to evolve the first simple life form. Or are you suddenly a creationist?
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    So you don't believe that the big bang or pre-life on earth geology should be taught in science class?
    When did he say that?
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Sure, unless you are arguing that the first life form was created, it had to evolve from something. Somehow matter had to combine in such a way as to evolve the first simple life form. Or are you suddenly a creationist?
    This shows how woefully misled and poorly informed you are on the subject.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    When did he say that?
    Isn't that what we are arguing? Creation versus Evolution? If evolution has nothing to do with what the first life form evolved from, then it also has nothing to do with whether creationism should be taught in science classes instead of or alongside evolution. From your point of view creation and evolution deal with two completely different topics.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    It's a silly thought, really.

    Do they give the frogs and worms a last-right before they slay and dissect?

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Isn't that what we are arguing? Creation versus Evolution? If evolution has nothing to do with what the first life form evolved from, then it also has nothing to do with whether creationism should be taught in science classes instead of or alongside evolution. From your point of view creation and evolution deal with two completely different topics.
    Just because evolution doesn't deal with how life was created doesn't mean you get to teach religion in science class.

    This is Darwin's evolution, some evolutionary scientist do have hypothesis on how life was created on Earth, but no one knows for sure.
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Isn't that what we are arguing? Creation versus Evolution? If evolution has nothing to do with what the first life form evolved from, then it also has nothing to do with whether creationism should be taught in science classes instead of or alongside evolution. From your point of view creation and evolution deal with two completely different topics.
    Well, you got one thing right, evolution does not have anything to do with whether or not creationism should be taught in science class.

    edit.. make that 2 things right, they are completely different topics
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    The moon, when it is at it's closest orbit, is 360,000 km from the earth, or 36,000,000,000 cm. The moon moves away from the earth at a rate of 3.8 cm a year. 65 million years ago, when dinosaurs walked the earth, the moon would have been about 2,470 km from the earth, or about the distance from New York to LA.
    Assuming (incorrectly) the recession rate is constant,
    the distance from the earth to the moon 65 million years ago equals
    the distance today minus the product of the annual recession rate and 65 million.
    36,000,000,000 cm - (65,000,000 cm * 3.8) =
    36,000,000,000 cm - 247,000,000 cm =
    35,753,000,000 cm =
    357,530 kilometers.

    2470 km is the distance the moon has moved in 65 million years.
    The rate of recession has actually decreased over time because as the moon gets farther away the tidal effects that cause the recession get weaker.

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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Just because evolution doesn't deal with how life was created doesn't mean you get to teach religion in science class.

    This is Darwin's evolution, some evolutionary scientist do have hypothesis on how life was created on Earth, but no one knows for sure.
    Darwin defeated evolution in his Origin of Species. I've been through that already here. Can you give me one example in the fossil record of a complete chain of links between one species and another?
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    Re: Which should be taught in school science classes?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Well, you got one thing right, evolution does not have anything to do with whether or not creationism should be taught in science class.

    edit.. make that 2 things right, they are completely different topics
    Then why are we debating creation versus evolution? Instead we should be debating macro speciation versus non-macro speciation. Since we have absolutely no evidence for macro speciation, I would argue that evolution can be dropped entirely and we can start over with "We really just don't know."
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