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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

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    That was not the law I originally citied and you tried to refute. Nice spin tho mate.
    I did refute it according to US law. What part of this are you not getting?

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    If you had just google'd GBH. You would have know straight away which law I am talking about, not to mention the simple fact you could have just looked at my location rather than attempting to bull**** about knowing the law
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    I did not know it was a term used in English common law. I did know it meant "grievous bodily harm" as it is a term that is sometimes used by lawyers here in civil cases in the US as well. So why would I goggle it.

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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    Anyone woman who hits a dude in the nads (when its not self defense) deserves whatever beatdown she gets. That's one thing you just DON'T DO. In fact, I have zero sympathy for any woman who initiates violence against a man and then gets beat to hell as a result. Just I like I wouldn't have sympathy for anyone who would hit someone who is obviously physically superior and then got a beating of a life time for their stupidity. You don't pick a physical fight unless you think you can finish it.

    I remember when my wife and I were engaged. She told me the one thing she would never tolerate is a man hitting her. I said I agreed completely, with one exception. I told her if she ever decided to hit me, she better plan on knocking me out, because I would respond to her physical attacks just like I would to anyone else's. Eleven years later, we're still married and never have had a physical confrontation.

    I agree it's a problem we don't address. Heck, we see it even in TV entertainment. Anyone who has regularly watched Everyone Loves Raymond has seen Debra smack Ray across the head, punch him in the arm, and elbow him in the ribs. Plus she's regularly verbally abusive. One of her tag lines is "You're an idiot." And its all played for laughs. Imagine if the roles were reversed. Oh how funny it would be to see a husband smack around his inconsiderate wife and verbally degrade her intelligence. I can just hear the laughter now.
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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    Any woman that kicks or hits a male in their privates? That is wrong and and she deserves ( yes I did say deserves) to get her ass handed to her. Unless it is in self defense? There is no reason to be doing that to a man.

    I will say if a woman walks up to a man and smacks him? Men need to try to use restraint as they are usually stronger.

    I feel everybody should be ok to defend themselves when it comes to personal assult and this is coming from someone who has dealt with it several time and why I now own a gun and keep a bat in close reach at all times as you never know when an attack may happen.
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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I would prefer that we, as a society, rather than distinguishing by gender and saying "hitting women is never okay" should instead say "initiating violence in a family dispute is never okay" and leave gender out of it. This avoids giving a certain type of female the idea that she can hit and not be hit back.
    I agree that nobody should ever hit anybody. Definitely that's the best situation. But while you worry about women getting the message that they can hit men is legitimate, isn't men hitting women a radically bigger problem for society? So if we have to choose between sending a message that might encourage women to hit men and a message that might encourage men to hit women, shouldn't we send the message that will focus on the bigger problem?

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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I agree that nobody should ever hit anybody. Definitely that's the best situation. But while you worry about women getting the message that they can hit men is legitimate, isn't men hitting women a radically bigger problem for society? So if we have to choose between sending a message that might encourage women to hit men and a message that might encourage men to hit women, shouldn't we send the message that will focus on the bigger problem?

    I would dispute that men hitting women without provocation is actually the bigger problem.
    I think saying "nobody should initiate violence in a family dispute" IS addressing the bigger problem.

    If somewhere between 30% and 70% of domestic battery of women by men, is a result of the woman initiating the violence by striking the man first, then eliminating that would likely eliminate 30 to 70% of the male-on-female violence.... how can that not be a win, unless you're just determined to frame this from a males-are-the-abusers context?

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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I would dispute that men hitting women without provocation is actually the bigger problem.
    I think saying "nobody should initiate violence in a family dispute" IS addressing the bigger problem.

    If somewhere between 30% and 70% of domestic battery of women by men, is a result of the woman initiating the violence by striking the man first, then eliminating that would likely eliminate 30 to 70% of the male-on-female violence.... how can that not be a win, unless you're just determined to frame this from a males-are-the-abusers context?
    Why can't we say both things?

    Never initiate violence in a family dispute and never hit a woman. Both pretty solid rules. Both have exceptions, but IMO, it's better to start out with that baseline as your instinct and work from there.

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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    Why say both? Never initiate violence in a family disupte pretty much covers it. If a woman violates that rule, I don't have sympathy for her when she gets the inevitable result. If a dog is growling and barking and some idiot decides to poke it with a stick, when that idiot inevitably gets chunk taken out of him, who is at fault? The dog who gave plenty of warning to stay the hell away or the idiot who knowingly provoked that dog?
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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    If she went for a dude's junk, she's lucky that all he did was break her face. It's quite simple - you don't go after a dude's junk. Almost anything else is fair game. That is not.

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    Re: Women of DP - I ask you

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If she went for a dude's junk, she's lucky that all he did was break her face. It's quite simple - you don't go after a dude's junk. Almost anything else is fair game. That is not.
    The thing of it is, the testicles are an organ located outside the protection of the body. Lots of women don't seem to understand this. Imagine if a person were to open someone's abdominal cavity up and strike that person directly in the intestines, liver, kidney, etc. Think how bad a hard strike to the kidneys are, then consider how much worse it would feel to remove the skin and muscles protecting the kidneys. Would you expect a person to simply shrug off such a blow?

    I can't seem to gin up much sympathy for a woman who had her face broken after striking a man in the 'nads. It's not a joke.

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