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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you deny that the current system is suggesting anything else?
    I don't think we are headed for destruction of society.
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think we are headed for destruction of society.
    so we have a government that has created massive entitlement programs that in turn have created massive entitlement addicts who have become dependent on those entitlements. those entitlements continue to grow. so where is the money going to come from?



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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Oh, and on topic: I would favor some system of mandatory service(not strictly military) either before or after college(ie you could delay it by attending college, but not avoid it), if a system was put in place to make it work. I think it would be very difficult to make such a system work however, if not impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so we have a government that has created massive entitlement programs that in turn have created massive entitlement addicts who have become dependent on those entitlements. those entitlements continue to grow. so where is the money going to come from?
    Did I ever say reform was not needed? However, complete overhauls probably are not needed, just a steady change. Your panic is not warranted.
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did I ever say reform was not needed? However, complete overhauls probably are not needed, just a steady change. Your panic is not warranted.
    edify me as to what reforms you think can work

    and I am not panicking. I have the means to move to areas where the creeping crud of socialism is not imminent. The fact that most of us who are in the top 2% can do that is another reason why the poop's gonna hit the fan the way things are going.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    edify me as to what reforms you think can work

    and I am not panicking. I have the means to move to areas where the creeping crud of socialism is not imminent. The fact that most of us who are in the top 2% can do that is another reason why the poop's gonna hit the fan the way things are going.
    I think that every year when the economy has positive growth, we need to cut total spending by 2 %. That won't be too bad at first, but will rapidly mean that pretty much everything has to be cut, and it will get hard. I use the positive growth test because when in bad economic times, stimulative spending can be effective. It worked for Reagan after all(plus without positive growth it would become increasingly difficult to so). With cuts to spending combined with increased revenue as the economy grows, it should take a surprisingly short time to balance the books(though I don't know how long exactly).

    Needless to say, this would probably require some tweaking, but is a pretty rough guide as to how I would handle things. No tax cuts until the budget is balanced, as I don't think tax rates now are so high that they significantly lower any ones standard of living.
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think that every year when the economy has positive growth, we need to cut total spending by 2 %. That won't be too bad at first, but will rapidly mean that pretty much everything has to be cut, and it will get hard. I use the positive growth test because when in bad economic times, stimulative spending can be effective. It worked for Reagan after all(plus without positive growth it would become increasingly difficult to so). With cuts to spending combined with increased revenue as the economy grows, it should take a surprisingly short time to balance the books(though I don't know how long exactly).

    Needless to say, this would probably require some tweaking, but is a pretty rough guide as to how I would handle things. No tax cuts until the budget is balanced, as I don't think tax rates now are so high that they significantly lower any ones standard of living.
    good luck with that. the way the dems win elections is to promise more spending and promising those who get the handouts they won't pay any more taxes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    good luck with that. the way the dems win elections is to promise more spending and promising those who get the handouts they won't pay any more taxes.
    The way repubs win elections is promise more spending and less taxes and fiscal responsibility...
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The way repubs win elections is promise more spending and less taxes and fiscal responsibility...
    not always true-for example, here in Ohio Boehner won't take earmarks and the biggest criticism of soon to be re-elected to the first district (Steve Chabot) was that he didn't bring enough pork back to his district. Soon to win the senate seat, Rob Portman is a cost cutter as well.

    raising taxes is not fiscally responsible if those tax hikes don't really result in additonal income and spending is increased



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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not always true-for example, here in Ohio Boehner won't take earmarks and the biggest criticism of soon to be re-elected to the first district (Steve Chabot) was that he didn't bring enough pork back to his district. Soon to win the senate seat, Rob Portman is a cost cutter as well.

    raising taxes is not fiscally responsible if those tax hikes don't really result in additonal income and spending is increased
    I think you missed the point, which was to respond to an overgeneralization with an overgeneralization.
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