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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Great, when WWIII starts, where will we be? In a hole...with millions of untrained citizens.
    But we will be "free", right? at least until foreign troops gather us up.
    Veterans day is coming up....anybody got any extra patriotism to spare?
    My country is supposed to be the bastion of freedom. Conscription is slavery, and antithetical to the supposed ideals of this country.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    My country is supposed to be the bastion of freedom. Conscription is slavery, and antithetical to the supposed ideals of this country.
    Yes, conscription is forced and unrewarded service, or slavery, while national service with incentives and benefits is not slavery.
    There should be ample opportunities for such service, based somewhat on the military model, the longer you serve, the more points you earn towards benefits.
    I would also suggest a tax credit be one of the benefits, so those who serve are subsidized by those who are too selfish to help pay for their own freedom...
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Yes, conscription is forced and unrewarded service, or slavery, while national service with incentives and benefits is not slavery.
    There should be ample opportunities for such service, based somewhat on the military model, the longer you serve, the more points you earn towards benefits.
    I would also suggest a tax credit be one of the benefits, so those who serve are subsidized by those who are too selfish to help pay for their own freedom...
    I have no problem with people choosing to serve in the military.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Yes, conscription is forced and unrewarded service, or slavery, while national service with incentives and benefits is not slavery.
    There should be ample opportunities for such service, based somewhat on the military model, the longer you serve, the more points you earn towards benefits.
    I would also suggest a tax credit be one of the benefits, so those who serve are subsidized by those who are too selfish to help pay for their own freedom...
    this is funny coming from a guy who has no problem jacking up taxes on others and giving them nothing in return

    why shouldn't recipients of welfare have to do menial labor for those of us who are top bracket tax payers.



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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    My country is supposed to be the bastion of freedom. Conscription is slavery, and antithetical to the supposed ideals of this country.
    "Freedom" isn't always free. Sometimes it comes with a heavy price. Who's going to pay that price? I suppose not you.
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Yes, absolutely! We would be more careful about our wars if there was mandatory service.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    hmmm...... looks like majority of polled are FOR mandatory service. Interesting to say the least when you consider Canada's population would likely explode if it actually happened.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Obamanator View Post
    hmmm...... looks like majority of polled are FOR mandatory service. Interesting to say the least when you consider Canada's population would likely explode if it actually happened.
    Doubt that would happen, no such explosion occurred during the Viet Nam war, and not only because of all the exemptions given to potential draftees. I think we would be a bit more cautious about our wars, and that would be a good thing all around.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    "Freedom" isn't always free. Sometimes it comes with a heavy price. Who's going to pay that price? I suppose not you.
    Yet nobody is forced to be a police officer. Nobody is forced to be a scientist. Nobody is forced to be a general. You get more people by giving them more benefits.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    We are able to field one of the largest military forces on earth with all volunteers. A draft is anything but necessary.
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