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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think you missed the point, which was to respond to an overgeneralization with an overgeneralization.
    Not at all but if you feel better by thinking that, by all means do so.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    which one ultimately destroys society? not the flat tax-

    If the flat tax were implemented with the current budget, the rate would have be at least 30%. Now add SS/Medicare, property tax, and so on.... and we're getting closer to 40%

    I'd have to engage in armed rebellion, because I couldn't feed my family and pay my bills on what would be left to me.

    So yeah, a flat tax would destroy society, because the lower-income 1/3rd of the country would have to rebel or starve.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    WHile I haven't been in the army, from what I understand, comradery is what compels soldiers to fight. While there are a fair amount of patriots, this bond holds units together. So, theoretically, you just need to develop these bonds.
    I understand what you're saying but I'm not much for forced patriotism.

    A person should not be compelled to fight for something, they may not care for in the first place.
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    Re: Mandatory military service?



    Hell no! We won't go.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Absolutely not.

    I would also (if it were up to me) do away with the contracts the way they are and allow service member to quit UNLESS they are in a warzone.

    If a war is for a good cause people WILL volunteer.

    When we have wars we shouldn't be in like this people will be less inclined to join except for what I call the economic draft.

    Plus a draft/mandatory service is unconstitutional. The 13th amendment protects us against forced servitude unless convicted of a crime.
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post


    Hell no! We won't go.


    Agreed, we wouldn't want "you" (draftees).....
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    Absolutely not.

    I would also (if it were up to me) do away with the contracts the way they are and allow service member to quit UNLESS they are in a warzone.
    Wouldn't that severely cripple and bankrupt the country? You would have a **** load of people joining the military because they like their health care plan and benefits and then leave as soon as a war/conflict is about to start?

    If a war is for a good cause people WILL volunteer.
    I guess they must have not had to draft anyone in WWI and WWII.
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    I would not support a mandatory military service provision. I do not think such a requirement is necessary or advisable for a country as big as the United States. First, it would be expensive and difficult to organize. Second, I do not think it is smart to put people in the army who do not want to be there except at times when doing so is absolutely necessary (e.g. threat of invasion).

    However, I do recognize that there might be benefits to mandatory military service. I think military service has the potential to teach young people valuable lessons (though that is not always its actual effect). I also think making the army more diverse would benefit many currently serving. However, these are mostly personal benefits, and can be achieved through other means. Overall, I think the practical difficulties and risks posed by such a requirement outweigh these potential benefits.

    At the same time, I don't think mandatory military service is always a bad idea for smaller countries. I might also consider supporting other types of mandatory public service at the state level.

    Finally, I am intrigued by (though not necessarily in favor of) a requirement that a draft be automatically instituted upon the third year of any military engagement. I think such a provision might be an interesting balance between our need to freely engage in military action under many circumstances, and the need to deter unnecessary military engagement.

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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I support some kind of compulsory service military being one option.
    It could be tied to healthcare....if you serve, you get a tax credit on your insurance premiums, the amount would be based on type of service and duration of service.
    Certainly the military would garner the most credit, with actual warriors getting more credit than support staff...
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    Re: Mandatory military service?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Wouldn't that severely cripple and bankrupt the country? You would have a **** load of people joining the military because they like their health care plan and benefits and then leave as soon as a war/conflict is about to start?



    I guess they must have not had to draft anyone in WWI and WWII.
    It would not cripple the nation. In garrison you are still working.
    Also if those folks leave you are left with people that WANT to be there which is better.

    People should not be forced into service ever. It has happened in the past and it was a mistake.
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