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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Star Wars, no contest


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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Which do YOU enjoy more?
    Kirk, Spock, Picard, Janeway or Anikin, Darth, C3PO, Luke, Leia?
    If I may out-nerd you all, I'd like to say that Star Trek and Star Wars aren't even in the same genre.

    Star Trek is science fiction. On the Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness, Star Trek leans more towards the "hard" side. It focuses on physics (even if it's in-universe physics and not real world physics), does not use mystical elements, and generally tries to find scientific explanations for occurrences. In these cases, it much more typifies science fiction.

    Star Wars, on the other hand, is an example of space opera. On the Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness, Star Wars leans much, much towards the "soft" side. While it is set in space, and it does apply in-universe physics, it is not beholden to them, and even use element more often used in fantasy works. This is why we can have the Jedi and Sith using the ever-present energy field known as the Force, the use of which is based upon or even determines your morality. This genre of stories relies less on "factual sciences" and more on "rule of cool."

    So, to me, I don't even see them as comparable. In many ways, comparing Star Trek with Star Wars is like comparing The Wild Wild West with Lord of the Rings.

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Pffft SG-1 can do with a few people what it takes armies/flotillas of ships to do in either Star Trek or Star Wars.
    I think the Stargate franchise has been very underrated but time will show us that it is a very great sci-fi franchise. While it is not by far a favorite of mine, I do enjoy it for it's consistency and staying power, which says a lot about those who produce for that franchise.

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If I may out-nerd you all, I'd like to say that Star Trek and Star Wars aren't even in the same genre.

    Star Trek is science fiction. On the Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness, Star Trek leans more towards the "hard" side. It focuses on physics (even if it's in-universe physics and not real world physics), does not use mystical elements, and generally tries to find scientific explanations for occurrences. In these cases, it much more typifies science fiction.

    Star Wars, on the other hand, is an example of space opera. On the Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness, Star Wars leans much, much towards the "soft" side. While it is set in space, and it does apply in-universe physics, it is not beholden to them, and even use element more often used in fantasy works. This is why we can have the Jedi and Sith using the ever-present energy field known as the Force, the use of which is based upon or even determines your morality. This genre of stories relies less on "factual sciences" and more on "rule of cool."

    So, to me, I don't even see them as comparable. In many ways, comparing Star Trek with Star Wars is like comparing The Wild Wild West with Lord of the Rings.
    Hmm, I hadn't thought of it in that way.

    Where would SG-1 and offshoots fall?

    It seems there is to an extent, a combo of both involved, if my memory of the episodes I watched is accurate.
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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Star Trek has so much more to offer. Star Wars was great until the idiot prequals that ruined it. Of course Babylon 5 has no equal either way, and it was just a TV show.

    So....

    Babylon 5
    Star Trek
    4-6 Star Wars

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Star Trek has so much more to offer. Star Wars was great until the idiot prequals that ruined it. Of course Babylon 5 has no equal either way, and it was just a TV show.

    So....

    Babylon 5
    Star Trek
    4-6 Star Wars

    End of story.
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    I must admit Star Trek IS great for making demotivational posters though
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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Yeah, with characters like this it's hard to argue
    Because Ewoks were so much cooler, LMAO!

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Hmm, I hadn't thought of it in that way.

    Where would SG-1 and offshoots fall?

    It seems there is to an extent, a combo of both involved, if my memory of the episodes I watched is accurate.
    Personally, I would set SG-1 in the genre of military science fiction. There's quite a number of books in that genre, but either 1) they're not that well known or 2) they're not considered primarily military sci-fi.

    And I wouldn't put Star Trek in with MS-F because while they do have military tropes, they have more tropes concerned with exploration and social issues, which makes it much broader in scope.

    SG-1, on the other hand, focuses much more on the military aspects of science fiction in any number of ways. After all, the Stargate Program is military in nature, and so civilian use of sci-fi aspects (such as the Stargate or meeting with aliens) is generally averted. So that's how I would categorize that franchise if I had to.

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?



    Duh.
    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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