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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    My mom's basement is comfy, there's Cheetos down here. Alright, further proof that I'll debate anything:

    The fact that YOU know where the Force comes from does not mean that everyone in a Star Trek Universe would know that. They'd have to obtain a Force positive individual first and then perform an extensive amount of testing on them before being able to positively indentify it's source. In the meantime, the evil Empire has wiped out your life as we know it.
    Using info from outside the movies is the best you can do? You don't even want Trek book, cartoons etc info added to this. You would be overwhelmed by the mind boggling amount of information and tech.

    Your Star Wars warped mind could not handle the complexity's.

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    Your analysis of midi-chlorians is also wrong. They are sentient organisms that serve merely as an indicator of a person's Force aptitude. They are not the Force.
    Without the ability to communicate with them, technically there is no force. This according to the MOVIE.

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    However, here's a list of non-Force related superweapons that could pose a wee bit of a problem to your Delta Quadrant.
    Not really.

    Cloaking
    Time travel
    Far superior weapon's in general
    Tactics better than WWII era
    Midi-chlorians killable life form.

    All spells doom for Star Wars.
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    Cool Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    technically incorrect...
    Force (Star Wars) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They would have to be sentient, to communicate with all life and with the Force. Also, this would indicate they do not 'cause' or 'create' the Force, but communicate with it.
    I am sorry wiki does not apply hehehehe.

    No they would not have to be. We communicate with animals and they are not considered sentient.
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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Using info from outside the movies is the best you can do? You don't even want Trek book, cartoons etc info added to this. You would be overwhelmed by the mind boggling amount of information and tech.
    I figured anything that was canon in either universe was fair game. I'm not arguing that Star Trek doesn't address more technical details in their fiction, but for sheer firepower and military might alone I’m fairly sure that we’ve got you Trekkies stomped no matter what you bring to the table. You're just speculating, I'm posting proof.

    Your Star Wars warped mind could not handle the complexity's.
    Ad Hominems in a nerd debate thread? You're attacking my intelligence over which sci-fi genre I like? Please…

    Nerd Debate only here, por favor.

    Without the ability to communicate with them, technically there is no force. his according to the MOVIE.
    I already proved otherwise, you're interpreting it wrong.

    Cloaking
    Time travle
    Far superior wepons in general
    Tactics better than WWI era
    Midi-chlrians killable life form.
    I’ll chalk this up to you not having as much exposure to the SW universe. We have all these in certain instances…except for the last one, I’m not sure where you were going with that…

    All spells doom for Star Wars.
    On the contrary, my dear Watson…
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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    I figured anything that was canon in either universe was fair game. I'm not arguing that Star Trek doesn't address more technical details in their fiction, but for sheer firepower and military might alone I’m fairly sure that we’ve got you Trekkies stomped no matter what you bring to the table. You're just speculating, I'm posting proof.
    All I have to do is say is travel and it's lights out for Star Wars, that simple. Since you want proof....



    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Ad Hominems in a nerd debate thread? You're attacking my intelligence over which sci-fi genre I like? Please…

    Nerd Debate only here, por favor.
    I was joking. It's a nerd debate, lighten up you sniveling nerf herder.

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    I already proved otherwise, you're interpreting it wrong.
    Not according to the movie, so sorry.

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    I’ll chalk this up to you not having as much exposure to the SW universe. We have all these in certain instances…except for the last one, I’m not sure where you were going with that…
    No place in Star Wars did they time travel, lets add transporters to that list and midi-chlorians are a according to cannon a micro life form. All life forms can be killed. Kill off them and no contact with everything or the force.
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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I am sorry wiki does not apply hehehehe.

    No they would not have to be. We communicate with animals and they are not considered sentient.
    First, some would disagree on your comment about the sentient nature of animals, so that's a wash.

    As for wiki, I'b be happy to point you to any number of online resources considers 'canon law' in regards to Star Wars, that agree with what I posted from Wiki. So there

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    lighten up you sniveling nerf herder.

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    ...and midi-chlorians are a according to cannon a micro life form. All life forms can be killed. Kill off them and no contact with everything or the force.
    Technically, kill them off, and all life ceases, as they are symbiotic and one cannot exist without the other (that, is 'canon' on just about any site you care to google in regards to the SW universe).

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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Damn it! Foiled again!

    +1 For Family Guy reference.
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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Technically, kill them off, and all life ceases, as they are symbiotic and one cannot exist without the other (that, is 'canon' on just about any site you care to google in regards to the SW universe).
    Don't have to kill them all off. Just need to reduce the levels to make force sensitives no longer sensitive.
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    Re: Star Trek or Star Wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    All I have to do is say is travel and it's lights out for Star Wars, that simple. Since you want proof....


    What’s “is travel?” I’m not familiar with that… and I can’t use youtube here at work. (Yes, I’m at work. Judge me for not working!)


    Not according to the movie, so sorry.
    No, according to the movie, and as Whovian already stated, midi-chlorians are a part of all living organisms and to kill them would be to kill all life, including your Federation crew. A bit self-destructive, I think.


    No place in Star Wars did they time travel, lets add transporters to that list and midi-chlorians are a according to cannon a micro life form. All life forms can be killed. Kill off them and no contact with everything or the force.
    Again, see above about the midi-chlorians and there are at least 9 confirmed cases of time travel in the Star Wars canon. We don’t have transporters, true, but I think you really overestimate the advantage that gives you.
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