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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And usually when they try to use it in that context it is to make all nationalism look like Zig hiel or some other nazi ****. Not the belief that nations should act independently,synonymous with patriotism, or any of the other positive thing with nationalism.
    Actually, no. You act like I am using the term to make a blanket statement about nationalism in every context. That's simply not true. I don't know what else you would call a bunch of people trying to make others only fly American flags. I call that nationalism, in the context that it is excessive patriotism. It's one thing to fly an American flag and have love for your country, it's another to try and shove it down everyone else's throats and expect them to just ignore their culture and past.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Actually, no. You act like I am using the term to make a blanket statement about nationalism in every context. That's simply not true.
    That is a load of crap. When you only try to bring up the negative definitions in order to compare it to nazism, or say retarded **** like "Nationalism is outmoded." it shows your true colors. You all are globalist/internationalist so I expect you to try to demonize such things as loyalty to your country,patriotism and other things, but at least be honest about it.

    I don't know what else you would call a bunch of people trying to make others only fly American flags.
    I call that nationalism, in the context that it is excessive patriotism.
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    I do not think anyone here is saying they should be forced to only fly American flags,check the poll results. What many of us are saying is that if you wish to be American then be a real American not a hyphenated American,after all you wouldn't be here if your or your parents or grandparents former country was all that great.

    It's one thing to fly an American flag and have love for your country, it's another to try and shove it down everyone else's throats and expect them to just ignore their culture and past.
    Not waving your former country's flag is not ignoring your culture and past, its called showing loyalty to your new country.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is a load of crap. When you only try to bring up the negative definitions in order to compare it to nazism, or say retarded **** like "Nationalism is outmoded." it shows your true colors. You all are globalist/internationalist so I expect you to try to demonize such things as loyalty to your country,patriotism and other things, but at least be honest about it.
    I do not think anyone here is saying they should be forced to only fly American flags,check the poll results. What many of us are saying is that if you wish to be American then be a real American not a hyphenated American,after all you wouldn't be here if your or your parents or grandparents former country was all that great.



    Not waving your former country's flag is not ignoring your culture and past, its called showing loyalty to your new country.
    I have no issue with immigrants flying flags on their own private property. My parents do it, but they also fly an American flag. But when I see Mexicans raising a Mexican flag on public school property, that's a show stopper right there. Pride in your heritage is one thing, trying to change the country you're in is unacceptable.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is a load of crap. When you only try to bring up the negative definitions in order to compare it to nazism, or say retarded **** like "Nationalism is outmoded." it shows your true colors. You all are globalist/internationalist so I expect you to try to demonize such things as loyalty to your country,patriotism and other things, but at least be honest about it.
    Where did I bring up Nazism? Also, there is a clear difference between being patriotic and being overly patriotic.

    I do not think anyone here is saying they should be forced to only fly American flags,check the poll results. What many of us are saying is that if you wish to be American then be a real American not a hyphenated American,after all you wouldn't be here if your or your parents or grandparents former country was all that great.
    Please define a "real American". I wasn't aware that paying tribute to your culture and past made one a fake American.

    Not waving your former country's flag is not ignoring your culture and past, its called showing loyalty to your new country.
    Waving your former country's flag does not dictate one's patriotism to their new country. At least that's my opinion. To each their own, I suppose.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oh I forgot that liberals and globalist/internationalist think all cultures are equal to ours even countries that execute homosexuals and adulterers.
    It's not that I would put a liberal social-democracy like Britain or France on par with Saudi Arabia -- of course not. The developing world has problems, and people who deny that they're still forming, still developing (think of that) into more liberal, civilised nations, are misguided. But it is an important lesson for those at the top of the world (Europe, Russia, the US, Canada, Australia, etc.) to keep their own nationalism in check. Would I agree that France's society is more conducive to progress and intellectualism than that of Sudan? Of course. Does that mean France ought to wipe out Sudan's culture and replace it with a French-style liberal republic? No. Why? Because Sudan (as an example) is a developing nation, and once it develops, it may well have great things to share with the world, that would not have come from La Republique Francaise du Sudan, if you take my meaning.

    It's a fine line, I suppose. On the one hand, nations have a right to their own society, and culture, and the nationalism of greater nations may interfere with that. On the other hand, the leading nations of today undoubtedly have some good lessons to teach the developing countries.

    The point is that extremism on either side is dangerous.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Where did I bring up Nazism? Also, there is a clear difference between being patriotic and being overly patriotic.
    Its the usual globalist/internationalist tactic. Demonize patriotism/nationalism by trying to conjure up images of nazism.



    Please define a "real American". I wasn't aware that paying tribute to your culture and past made one a fake American.

    This quote by Teddy Roosevelt should be a good clue for you.

    There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

    Theodore Roosevelt


    Waving your former country's flag does not dictate one's patriotism to their new country.

    Waving the flag of their new country only shows that they are unpatriotic to their new country.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oh I forgot that liberals and globalist/internationalist think all cultures are equal to ours even countries that execute homosexuals and adulterers.
    I'm a liberal, I'm very nationalistic, and my culture/country is better than all other, so your generalisation is false.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I'm a liberal, I'm very nationalistic, and my culture/country is better than all other, so your generalisation is false.
    There is usually an exception to every rule.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its the usual globalist/internationalist tactic. Demonize patriotism/nationalism by trying to conjure up images of nazism.
    It's a tactic a lot of people utilize. Hence, Godwin's Law...

    This quote by Teddy Roosevelt should be a good clue for you.

    There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

    Theodore Roosevelt
    While I certainly respect Mr. Roosevelt's take on it, I don't think one President defines what a real American is or isn't. To me that sounds like a bunch of elitist hogwash. To me, the beauty of this country is how diverse we are.

    Waving the flag of their new country only shows that they are unpatriotic to their new country.
    Huh? I think you are trying to say that waving the flag of their old country indicates an unpatriotic attitude towards their new country. I disagree. I think that's an unfair generalization to make. Have you personally interviewed these people who still pay homage to their culture and their past? Do you honestly know how patriotic they truly are?

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