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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    If you ask me, a healthy dose of pride in your own country is fine. But it can easily go too far. When it becomes disconnected from values, but when patriotism becomes a mere competition of the display of rituals (waving the flag, instead of remembering what it stands for), it's a bad thing. Also, when pride in the own country derives into looking down on others, that's bad too, and that can easily happen.

    Just my two cents as a German, not sure how much this applies to other counties. For us over here it's obvious how extreme nationalism can be perverted, considering our history. Just waving the flag doesn't make you a good patriot.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Or possibly


    ???
    Well, that too.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    No, you misunderstand what nationalism is.

    Patriotism is all well and fine -- it's the belief that your country is great, and you've got pride in it. Nationalism, however, is dangerous and militant -- it is the belief that your country must be the best and you'd do anything to see it there.

    Ultimately, that means nationalism just breeds hatred, xenophobia, militarism and isolation.
    It is rule by means of popular sovereignty an example of what was happening during our revolution as well as France's revolution and the modern nation-state. I understand that the term has evolved into some demonic thing by others like yourself despite its well-known history, but it is a good "ism" to live by.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Nationalism is outmoded.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It is rule by means of popular sovereignty an example of what was happening during our revolution as well as France's revolution and the modern nation-state. I understand that the term has evolved into some demonic thing by others like yourself despite its well-known history, but it is a good "ism" to live by.
    It hasn't evolved into anything. It depends entirely on the context that it's being used.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    It hasn't evolved into anything. It depends entirely on the context that it's being used.
    Agreed, it really depends on the context. Being proud of the own country may be fine. But so far, those people I've met who make a great fuss of this pride, no matter if American nationalists or other nationalists, are usually ignorant idiots.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    It hasn't evolved into anything. It depends entirely on the context that it's being used.
    Don't be ridiculous. When it was first coined, it was referring to the phenomenon of the modern nation-state with regard to a group of people with shared characteristics desiring to have sovereignty instead of being ruled by some perceived foreign element. It was mostly a much later phenomenon that had the term connected with negative characteristics such as "excessive" pride, "xenophobia", and "militant".
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. When it was first coined, it was referring to the phenomenon of the modern nation-state with regard to a group of people with shared characteristics desiring to have sovereignty instead of being ruled by some perceived foreign element. It was mostly a much later phenomenon that had the term connected with negative characteristics such as "excessive" pride, "xenophobia", and "militant".
    We call that self determination now.
    Nationalism is durka durka domestic militia funkybunk.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Nationalism can also mean: "excessive patriotism; chauvinism" according to dictionary.com which is the context that I think it was being used in. At least, that was the context I intended.

    And usually when they try to use it in that context it is to make all nationalism look like Zig hiel or some other German or nazi ****. Not the belief that nations should act independently,synonymous with patriotism, or any of the other positive thing with nationalism.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Or possibly


    ???

    Oh I forgot that liberals and globalist/internationalist think all cultures are equal to ours even countries that execute homosexuals and adulterers.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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