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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I don't understand. Why wouldn't you want more multiculturalism in your nation? Every Italian-American, Irish-American, or German-American in your country brings more to the table than just a single mass of "Americans".
    Multiculturalism proceeded after the above examples you provided. Those above demographics have pride in their heritage, that is to be sure, but it is certainly much more muted than what was encouraged when multiculturalism gained headway. The goal was to become "American", even if you could contribute some flavor in the meanwhile. Personally, I like that balance between assimilation and multiculturalism, with more emphasis on assimilation. I don't want to encourage tribalism.

    That being said, again, again, I would fly both the American flag and the Irish flag. My home is America, my heritage is Irish and British (though I deny the Britishness, because those Brits in my family were among the first of our Founding Fathers and their immediate children who also became leaders). I'm glad for the sense of being "American" rather than merely someone from another country now in a new one.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    What's the big deal about flying other nations flags?

    I have the Irish and United Nations flags on my wall.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    When you try to control others to only fly American flags you are skirting a little too closely to Nationalism in my opinion. Honestly, who cares and why is it such a big deal? Live and let live.

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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    I like nationalism, and so should anyone living in a good country. People misunderstand what nationalism is.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I don't understand. Why wouldn't you want more multiculturalism in your nation? Every Italian-American, Irish-American, or German-American in your country brings more to the table than just a single mass of "Americans".

    When a nationality flys THEIR flag in pride, it segregates them as a small community within America. They SHOULD have 100% pride in America and ONLY want to display their total joy as being a NEW part of this GREAT Nation called America. Their PAST country of origin SHOULD be in the past.
    So when they display OTHER flags..... it is their pride of their FORMER nation. How could you LOVE America by displaying a FORMER nations flag?
    I just dont get it.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    As long as they obey any relevant flag codes, in Australia your not allowed to fly any flag higher than the Australian flag, so as long things like that are obeyed, who cares.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    When a nationality flys THEIR flag in pride, it segregates them as a small community within America. They SHOULD have 100% pride in America and ONLY want to display their total joy as being a NEW part of this GREAT Nation called America. Their PAST country of origin SHOULD be in the past.
    So when they display OTHER flags..... it is their pride of their FORMER nation. How could you LOVE America by displaying a FORMER nations flag?
    I just dont get it.
    I think it is fine for people to take some pride of their family heritage. Additionally, as a History nerd, I can completely see the desire to be aware of it and to take pride in those facts. That being said, I don't agree with the idea that because of the diverse cultures in this country, we need to repudiate the melting pot idea in favor of a salad. Multiculturalism pays some very small abstract lip service to the idea of being American, but it spends most of its time focusing on that which makes each of us different from each other. It never really pays homage to what an "American" ethos really is other than the fact that we are all different and respect of cultures is paramount.

    The shame of it is that multiculturalism is in at least a small amount a reflection on the arrogance of academics who do not see the practical uses of civilization for governing a people. They turned an interesting intellectual exercise into a reality principle, which is entirely problematic. The "understanding" is done in a lop-sided manner where it is "our" responsibility to be of a "higher" mind than we once were and to accept other "cultures" as just as good as "our own." Meanwhile, it is almost as if they are caught unaware that those same cultures we need to respect are using the very same techniques that are "no longer acceptable for us to live by."

    To me, there is a reason why we should heed the events surrounding Aristotle and Socrates with regard to the relationship between the City and Philosophy.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I think it is fine for people to take some pride of their family heritage. Additionally, as a History nerd, I can completely see the desire to be aware of it and to take pride in those facts. That being said, I don't agree with the idea that because of the diverse cultures in this country, we need to repudiate the melting pot idea in favor of a salad.
    No salad. Just National pride. When you are THRILLED to be a part of something, you want to represent that. NOT represent what you WERE a part of. That, to ME, cancels out your love of what you are CURRENTLY a part of. I find it.... insulting.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    What I'm wondering is that so many seem to think the symbolic act of flying a flag actually is a yardstick for the national pride or identity. I'd question that. Everybody can fly a flag, no matter how much he really is proud on the right things and believes in the right values that make your country great. That's easy. It's a symbolic act and doesn't say much.

    I'm sure there are some people in America flying other flags than the American, who have a better understanding what America actually is about, about its values and history, than quite a few people who are all crazy about flying the American flag and do it all the time. But that's just my guess, I might be wrong.

    For example, probably there are some racists who often wave the American flag, yet many people will say that when he's a racist, he does not really understand what America stands for, and thus isn't a true patriot. An Italian-American, who waves the Italian flag because of pride in his heritage, on the other side, may appreciate American values of freedom much more than said racist, and be proud of them, and thus be a better patriot.

    If you really want to find out if someone is a true patriot, then talk with him and ask him what he believes. Don't just watch which flag he waves, and how often.
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    Re: Fly other Nations flags in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    No salad. Just National pride. When you are THRILLED to be a part of something, you want to represent that. NOT represent what you WERE a part of. That, to ME, cancels out your love of what you are CURRENTLY a part of. I find it.... insulting.
    What crap, America is a nation of immigrants and you want to erase that part of your history, as though nothing exists outside of America, you do your country a disservice.
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