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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    How about You cease being an apologist for a Communist Bastard. OR provide the name of the person who forced him to use that Scummy Avatar.
    I'm not apologist for anybody here. I want you to stay on topic.

    Stay on topic.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    How about You cease being an apologist for a Communist Bastard. OR provide the name of the person who forced him to use that Scummy Avatar.
    Could you please only use capital letters on proper nouns, at the start of sentences or when using an acronym?
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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Could you please only use capital letters on proper nouns, at the start of sentences or when using an acronym?
    Could you please find an avi that includes both Mr. Potato and Bert?


    TED,
    Figures that if we're gonna tolerate derailing the thread, may as well ask for more Bert.
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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It was an appropriate response to your "no they're not".

    Moronic.
    Members of the division's bakery column, led by Obersturmführer Braunnagel and Untersturmführer Kochalty, assisted Einsatzgruppe A in rounding up Ukrainian Jews. Witnesses report that the Jewish victims were forced to run a gauntlet formed by soldiers who would beat them as they passed, and when they reached the end of the gauntlet, Einsatzgruppen officers murdered them and their bodies were pushed into a bomb crater. The German 1st Mountain Division is also suspected of being implicated. Between 50 and 60 Jews were killed in this manner, as a part of the larger Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in over 700 murders.

    In addition historian Eleonore Lappin from the Institute for the History of Jews in Austria has documented several cases of war crimes committed by members of the 5 SS Division Wiking in her work The Death Marches of Hungarian Jews Through Austria in the Spring of 1945.[9]

    On March 28, 1945, eighty Jews from evacuation column, though fit for the journey, were shot by three members of the Waffen SS division Wiking and five military policemen. On April 4, twenty members of another column that left Graz tried to escape near Eggenfeld, not far from Gratkorn. Soldiers from the 5 SS Division Wiking that were temporarily stationed there apprehended them in the forest near Mt. Eggenfeld and then herded them in a gully, where they were shot. On April 7 and 11, 1945 members of the division executed another eighteen escaped prisoners.[9]
    All of this was evil, but a reenactment group is not responsible. The majority of the solders who participated with the unit where not implicated or involved in war crimes. Why would they add that?

    That would be like my unit talking on the web site about the blacks that served in the Union being put back or sold into slavery, and their white officers shot.

    In the end it is still nothing more than a reenactment group. And your hyperbole is still just that.

    This is too good to pass up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    wait, they don't. Or tell me where they "reenact" the rounding up of Ukrainian Jews, forcing them to run a gauntlet through which they're beaten and then shot at the end and then have their bodies dumped in a bomb crater, as part of the [b]Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in the murder of 1,000,000 people.
    That is a hell of an exaggeration! From 700 to 1,000,000!!!
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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Just to clarify things further - I'll make a stretch here. Mr.KC is familiar with the Nazi's and their Eintzgruppen activities in Poland And Russia. This includes the Mega incident at Babi Yar. He also knows that one reason the Ukranians welcomed the Germans initially and were glad the Jews were being taken care of was in some instances the fact that many of the more reprehensible Commisars and worse in the Stalin era were Jewish including total vermin like Nikolay Yerzhov & Genrikh Yagoda.

    He also KNOWS that Stalin's NKVD after Poland was invaded from the East by Stalin also participated in Murder especially the Katyn massacres. He also knows that in July 1944 Stalin waited until the "risen up" Polish Home Army in Warsaw was essentially destroyed by the Germans. He wanted the Non Communist Poles eliminated as much as possible.

    He identifies himself as a Red (possibly saw Reds with warren Beatty too often (??) ) and knows some will be irritated by it. His memories are very selective.
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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    All of this was evil, but a reenactment group is not responsible.
    Ugh. You're really hopeless.

    That would be like my unit talking on the web site about the blacks that served in the Union being put back or sold into slavery, and their white officers shot.
    Except we're talking in one instance about a general historical event (blacks being put into slavery) whereas in the other case we're referring to actions taken directly by those whom are being impersonated and glorified as freedom fighters. Once again, you completely miss.

    That is a hell of an exaggeration! From 700 to 1,000,000!!!
    Interesting:

    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    The German 1st Mountain Division is also suspected of being implicated. Between 50 and 60 Jews were killed in this manner, as a part of the larger Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in over 700 murders
    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    According to their own records, the Einsatzgruppen murdered more than one million people, almost all civilians, beginning with the Polish intelligentsia
    I can't find the information in the source listed for the 700, but the one million is well documented, it seems.

    Ah, here we go:

    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    Members of the division's bakery column, led by Obersturmführer Braunnagel and Untersturmführer Kochalty, assisted Einsatzgruppe A in rounding up Ukrainian Jews. Witnesses report that the Jewish victims were forced to run a gauntlet formed by soldiers who would beat them as they passed, and when they reached the end of the gauntlet, Einsatzgruppen officers murdered them and their bodies were pushed into a bomb crater. The German 1st Mountain Division is also suspected of being implicated. Between 50 and 60 Jews were killed in this manner, as a part of the larger Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in over 700 murders[8]
    So they assisted Einsatzgruppe A as part of the broader Einsatzgruppen who was responsible for around 1,000,000 deaths.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine
    Just to clarify things further - I'll make a stretch here. Mr.KC is familiar with the Nazi's and their Eintzgruppen activities in Poland And Russia. This includes the Mega incident at Babi Yar. He also knows that one reason the Ukranians welcomed the Germans initially and were glad the Jews were being taken care of was in some instances the fact that many of the more reprehensible Commisars and worse in the Stalin era were Jewish including total vermin like Nikolay Yerzhov & Genrikh Yagoda.

    He also KNOWS that Stalin's NKVD after Poland was invaded from the East by Stalin also participated in Murder especially the Katyn massacres. He also knows that in July 1944 Stalin waited until the "risen up" Polish Home Army in Warsaw was essentially destroyed by the Germans. He wanted the Non Communist Poles eliminated as much as possible.

    He identifies himself as a Red (possibly saw Reds with warren Beatty too often (??) ) and knows some will be irritated by it. His memories are very selective.
    Open a thread if you want to whine about my views on Lenin. Maybe I'll actually respond.
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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Rob Reiner seems to think so.

    Reiner Compares Tea Party Candidates to Hitler | The Blaze

    If you say yes, how do you think they compare? If no, why not?
    Reiner has directed some great movies. That is what he is good at.

    Then you put celebrities like Reiner (with big name recognition) on the Bill Maher show and his arrogant attitudes about how brilliant he is and how ignorant everyone else is. The guests can go over the top as much as they wish, and the adoring live audience perpetuates the massive circle jerk. He (Reiner) just succeeded in painting himself as another Hollywood clown act.

    He needs to stick with directing movies. (Stand By Me was excellent...)




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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Ugh. You're really hopeless.
    Realist would be more appropriate.

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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Rob Reiner seems to think so.

    Reiner Compares Tea Party Candidates to Hitler | The Blaze

    If you say yes, how do you think they compare? If no, why not?
    If you say no, no answer is necessary since the comparison is absurd.
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    Re: Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Well sure, you can compare the tea party to Hitler. You can compare anything to anything else. It doesn't make the comparison accurate though.
    This. You can compare anything you want to Hitler. President Bush, President Obama, my history professor freshman year. Just because you make the comparison doesn't make it true. Well it does in my history professor's case, but she was just a bitch.

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