View Poll Results: What do you think of the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange

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    Re: Julian Assange

    Not really.

    My rooting for him is, as I said above, contingent on the type of material he releases.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Julian Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Government classified documents are classified for a reason. Whether any particular document should be classified can be debated, but just mass releasing them is not an acceptable way to handle that disagreement. I disapproved of the war in Iraq. Alot of the documents coming out show I was right in my disapproval. However, they should not have been released like this. There is a system in place to unclassified documents, and that system should be used. If you don't like the system, work to change it. Random people taking it on themselves to decide what should and should not be classified is not acceptable.
    But . . . isn't that essentially the way stuff gets classified? Some person we've never known nor will ever know (essentially a random person) taking it upon themselves to decide what should and should not be classified?
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    Re: Julian Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    But . . . isn't that essentially the way stuff gets classified? Some person we've never known nor will ever know (essentially a random person) taking it upon themselves to decide what should and should not be classified?
    There is a process for that too. Further, it's not a random person, it is a person who has been promoted through the system and given the job based on performance. In fact, it's kinda the opposite of random.
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    Re: Julian Assange

    Someone I've never known nor will ever know is, in my view, a random person.

    I don't really care how who certifies or promotes or evaluates them -- they are a perfect stranger.

    As for the process, there's so much stuff that ends up under wraps just to save face that the process is meaningless.
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    Re: Julian Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Someone I've never known nor will ever know is, in my view, a random person.

    I don't really care how who certifies or promotes or evaluates them -- they are a perfect stranger.

    As for the process, there's so much stuff that ends up under wraps just to save face that the process is meaningless.
    So it's a random person, if you change the meaning of "random" to something completely different?
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    Re: Julian Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I believe I addressed this a post or two ago.

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    Re: Julian Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think what most people calling him an asshole haven't realized is that Assange's work has brought attention to issues which the world wouldn't care about. He's revealed the killings carried out by the U.S. funded governments. Most people on the left didn't complain when he released information on the cult of scientology and the names of members in the NBP. Most right wing people on this forum didn't really complain when he released those e-mails between the climatologists or the nuclear accident in Iran. Are we all supposed to complain because he's released something some people may disagree with? This man should be held up as a patriot in the fight against global censorship.
    None of that could possibly result in the deaths of American servicemen.

    As TED pointed out, being a member of the military is--by it's very nature--dangerous. However, our service members deserve the highest level of safety and security that the government can provide.
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    Re: Julian Assange

    Leaks to prove that the US is turning a blind eye to human rights violations and covering up innocent deaths: Yes.

    Leaks that name locals who help coalition forces and reveal future coalition strategies: No.

    Why is people spending more time criticizing Assange than the idiots who are covering up this bloodied mess?
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    Re: Julian Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So it's a random person, if you change the meaning of "random" to something completely different?
    No.

    I'm saying that Julian Assange is just as random to me as the government agent classifying material.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Julian Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Someone I've never known nor will ever know is, in my view, a random person.

    I don't really care how who certifies or promotes or evaluates them -- they are a perfect stranger.

    As for the process, there's so much stuff that ends up under wraps just to save face that the process is meaningless.
    The random person in the government who evaluates them is doing so according to the guidelines of the government and in the interests of the country. The random person outside the government is releasing whatever he wants. That's a huge difference, IMO.
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