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Thread: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you think that you have some fundamental right to every dollar you own, that's at least a philosophical difference. (You're wrong, but at least I can understand where you're coming from.)
    If I do not have a fundemental right to every dollar I own, then who does? You?

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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    If I do not have a fundemental right to every dollar I own, then who does? You?
    Nobody, its all at least partially shared since it was a joint effort in making it.

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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I just posted the statistics showing that tax revenue did indeed decrease following the Bush tax cuts (and to a lesser extent, following the Reagan tax cuts). Try to keep up.



    Cool. I find your Gordon Gekko mentality to be disgusting. (However, I'm not so partisan that I would attribute your despicable worldview to ALL conservatives.)
    if the parasite label fits wear it. your existence alone is not a just claim on the wealth of others and I suspect I give more to charity than you do and it is well known that rich liberals give far less than rich conservatives. libs tend to believe that voting for socialism fulfills their charitable duties.



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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Nobody, its all at least partially shared since it was a joint effort in making it.
    You did not help me make it. Why should you get any of it?

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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I just posted the statistics showing that tax revenue did indeed decrease following the Bush tax cuts (and to a lesser extent, following the Reagan tax cuts). Try to keep up.



    Cool. I find your Gordon Gekko mentality to be disgusting. (However, I'm not so partisan that I would attribute your despicable worldview to ALL conservatives.)
    Again, here are the U.S. Treasury Data which unfortunately do not confirm your claim. The Bush tax rate cuts went into effect in July 2003

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    ******Current*receipts
    2001 3,132.40
    2002 3,118.20
    2003 2,967.90
    2004 3,043.40
    2005 3,265.70
    2006 3,659.30
    2007 3,995.20
    2008 4,197.00
    2009 4,074.00
    2010 3,726.90

    Current*personal income tax*receipts

    2001 2,202.80
    2002 2,163.70
    2003 2,002.10
    2004 2,047.90
    2005 2,213.20
    2006 2,546.80
    2007 2,807.40
    2008 2,951.20
    2009 2,780.30
    2010 2,409.30

    Now I am still waiting for you to explain how tax revenue increased AFTER the Bush tax cuts and stop posting what you think they should have been. That flies in the face of logic and common sense because you cannot prove predictions.

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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What I posted were actual dollars at the time and tax revenue to the U.S. Govt. almost doubled after the Reagan 10-10-5% tax cuts. How can that happen? I understand that the govt. has to be funded but today that means 3.8 trillion dollars and is outside the role of our govt. established by the Founders.
    Why in the world would you post in the actual dollars at the time, without controlling for inflation? Just because the government takes in more dollars from one year to the next doesn't mean that they actually took in more revenue. Jesus Christ, take a freshman economics class and learn what inflation is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative
    There is nothing dishonest about my claim that the tax rate cuts led to more taxpayers and thus higher tax revenue to the govt. It isn't crap as it is substantiated by the U.S. Treasury and the IRS. Your evidence is typical liberal spin and is nothing more than an attempt to convince people that the govt. needs the revenue more than the American people and that tax cuts are an expense to the govt.
    I see. Controlling for inflation in statistical comparisons of revenue over time = Liberal spin. Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative
    I would worry more about your credibility than mine as mine is backed by actual data that matters, U.S. Treasury and the IRS.
    Actually it's not. I posted the correct data, controlled for inflation. You posted some random **** including "Taxes on production and imports" that was completely unrelated to income tax cuts...and you didn't even control for inflation.

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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You did not help me make it. Why should you get any of it?
    you are an ant-he apparently is a grasshopper



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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if the parasite label fits wear it. your existence alone is not a just claim on the wealth of others and I suspect I give more to charity than you do and it is well known that rich liberals give far less than rich conservatives. libs tend to believe that voting for socialism fulfills their charitable duties.
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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You did not help me make it. Why should you get any of it?
    I am a part of an advanced society and I help to maintain that society. The existence of this advanced society created the situation that allowed you to make that dollar. Therefore I am at least partially responsible for you earning it.

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    Re: Flat tax or progressive tax? Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    TurtleDude Standard Post #3: "Everyone pay attention to me! Look at how rich I am!"

    Get some new material.
    actually.....i think it's "look how rich my mommy and daddy are"......

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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