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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    If Muslims wear turbans.I'm talking about your comment, not his.
    I know Muslims don't wear turbans. Turbans to me is a funny word, so I was making fun of the veil-like head garment the men wear that goes w/the long robe or
    ?Thone?.

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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    I know Muslims don't wear turbans. Turbans to me is a funny word, so I was making fun of the veil-like head garment the men wear that goes w/the long robe or
    I think you protest too much.

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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

    In reply to the original question of the thread - truthfully, yes, it would make me nervous.

    On a sort of instinctual and illogical level, I connect all "Islamic" garb and "middle eastern" looking persons with terrorism.

    Logically, I know that clothes (and for that matter, skin color/facial structure and the like) do not make the man (or woman).

    But I would still be likely to look more closely at someone who wore such clothes or looked stereotypically "middle eastern".

    Despite the obvious reality that any serious terrorist would do his/her best to NOT look stereotypically "terrorist".

    /shrug

    I doubt I would realize I was doing so until after the fact, and I would most likely logically analyze the situation before responding (depending on the time frame).

    But there you have it.

    Truthfully, that is probably one of the real victories that terrorism has had – they have been successful in sowing a kernel of doubt in many people’s minds when they see someone who fits the “terrorist” stereotype.

    But only the unthinking act on it without further consideration.

    Trouble is, far too many people don’t think.
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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    These are all strawmen. Do you believe that all muslims are terrorists? What about the muslims who are serving in the U.S. military, in local/state/county law enforcement agencies, and in federal law enforcement? Are they terrorists, too?
    No, but moderate Muslims possibly out of fear, have not condemned terrorism enough.
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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    No, but moderate Muslims possibly out of fear, have not condemned terrorism enough.
    You mean joining the U.S. military and serving their country at risk of personal harm is insufficient for you? I smell a non sequitor.

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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You mean joining the U.S. military and serving their country at risk of personal harm is insufficient for you? I smell a non sequitor.
    This is a smarty pants question isn't it?

    No I was thinking the ME countries, but also some of their religious leaders just don't seem to want to say that they condemn terrorism. That Iman associated with the 9/11 mosque wouldn't do it. If he has I haven't heard of it. He has been asked to.
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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
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    This is a smarty pants question isn't it?

    No I was thinking the ME countries, but also some of their religious leaders just don't seem to want to say that they condemn terrorism. That Iman associated with the 9/11 mosque wouldn't do it. If he has I haven't heard of it. He has been asked to.
    OH really?

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    I don't think you know what you are talking about here, Marilyn. You're allowing your phobias to control you, without doing the research to find out the facts about Muslims in the U.S. The fact is that American muslims were killed on 9/11. The fact is that hundreds/thousands of muslims have enlisted to serve in the armed forces since that time. The fact is that there are hundreds/thousands of muslims serving in law enforcement agencies and federal law enforcement, and agencies that collect and analyze intel on terror. The fact is that these people are our neighbors, co-workers, and often, fellow citizens, who want nothing more than to BE AMERICAN, and to have the freedom to live according to the dictates of their consciences, as we ALL DO.

    Instead of disseminating your phobias and racism, why don't you just stop?

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    Re: Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    No, but moderate Muslims possibly out of fear, have not condemned terrorism enough.
    Since when did all Muslims have this hive mind that you speak of.
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