I think government should completely stay out of the affairs of religious organizations.
I think religions should completely stay out of government policies.
I think that while people enjoy freedom of religion, they also have freedom from religion, as I believe people also have a right to personal conscience. Therefore, people should be allowed to make their own decisions themselves, and people have no right to set policies against them based on religious reasons.
Last edited by samsmart; 10-24-10 at 06:25 PM.
Jackboots always come in matched pairs, a left boot and a right boot.
Evolution is a religion of itself and ironically never even addresses true origins. One of the most prolific atheist activists is Oxford Professor Richard Dawkins. He stated: "Evolution is the intellectual platform of atheism.," so we should not be alarmed to learn what the true intentions behind preaching evolution is.
Maybe an alternative to the OP question should be; do we want a nation envisioned by our founders, or do we wish to continue to down the same path we're going?
I abhor slavery. I was born in a country where slavery had been established by British Kings and Parliaments as well as by the laws of the country ages before my existence. . . . In former days there was no combating the prejudices of men supported by interest; the day, I hope, is approaching when, from principles of gratitude as well as justice, every man will strive to be foremost in showing his readiness to comply with the Golden Rule. --Henry Larens, President of the Congress, 1777John Quincy Adams was known as the "hell-hound of abolition" and even Thomas Jefferson, often condemned of being a slave owner wrote this:A disposition to abolish slavery prevails in North America, that many of Pennsylvanians have set their slaves at liberty, and that even the Virginia Assembly have petitioned the King for permission to make a law for preventing the importation of more into that colony. This request, however, will probably not be granted as their former laws of that kind have always been repealed. --Benjamin Franklin, Letter to Dean Woodward, 1773This is usually the first area in which people attack our founders, but it's historically incorrect. You also cannot turn about corruption of more than 200 years in a matter of a few. Maybe you are also unaware of Indentured Servantry, where thousands of white slaves spent decades in the same conditions as their black counterparts?He [King George III] has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. . . . Determined to keep open a market where men should be bought and sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce. --The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. I, p. 34
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
As for your other point, are you also in favor for indentured servitude as well?
And what about limited suffrage, aboriginal genocide, and European revanchism?
Lets do somethin different we can always change it back. Bring on the conformity of the imperfectability of man lead by a government given divine leadership that is guided by a sense of ephemeral wisdom endowed from or creator to TEACH us the proper constructs of citizenship and loyalty to the state . Why not role it all into one , its been done before and so it shall be again- I know lets use the enviornment and our concern for the earth and let government be the moral compass for us by enacting laws to make us a" more noble animal in stewardship of nature for all". How blindly we see when lest we know, what we shall not reason for lack of understanding. The religious state has thus began.
I think my posts clearly represents my position on slavery, or any variety of it, including the modern human trafficking kind if you're to go that far. I'm not proposing that some kind of utopia can be found based merely on re-establishing the merits of our founders. We've passed another two centuries since then and times have changed considerably. I believe this topic is whether we favor religious government. According to Alexis de Toqueville's Democracy in America, the success America had achieved since it broke away from the British was an adherance to a high standard of morals -- based on Christian doctrines. Something we no longer can attest to and no questions as to why.