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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I advocate religious morals in government, but not a theocracy.
    Whose religion and whose morals?

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I guess this is where our philosophies clash a bit. I'll use abortion as an example for my beliefs as well. I believe that abortion is murder because of my religious faith. Because I personally believe it's murder, I do not support the right to anyone practicing legalized murder. This is why I am against abortion as a right for anyone. I have my religious beliefs and because I hold them to be true and the best belief out there, I want to see that manifested through our laws just like anyone else.
    See thats a personal belief, and not everyone subscribes to that belief. So I think it's unfair for someone to have to follow that belief, even if the majority of it of the population believes it. I'm not going to tell someone their belief isn't as valid as mine, and on the abortion issue, if someone wants to get an abortion, they are going to get it, whether it's illegal or not. Banning abortion would only lead to the deaths of women, and I look at it like that, which is why I support it, instead of just being ambivalent to it.
    Another example would be that muslims think that it is wrong to drink alcohol, so do you think it would be okay for muslims to ban alcohol, because of their religious belief is pushing them to make that public policy, even if you don't subscribe to their religious belief?
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    No, exactly the opposite.

    I want the "religious test" bit removed from the American canon and replaced with a test that ensures we have sufficiently un-religious people in office.
    Removing the religious test text would do the opposite of what you want. The Constitution clearly makes it known that no religious test is needed to serve in the government. I give you Article VI Clause III.

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Removing the religious test text would do the opposite of what you want. The Constitution clearly makes it known that no religious test is needed to serve in the government. I give you Article VI Clause III.

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
    I think I interpret the phrase differently.

    I want a test. It's just that my test would be designed to weed out people of improper religious faith.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No I don't think so. Because where do you draw the line, on what is acceptable to mix, and what isn't? Laws shouldn't have a religious belief behind them, it should be what is in the best interest to the state, and to the people that live in said state. Now obviously there are more than religious reasons to be against murder, and the state, and the people have an interest to make murdering people illegal. Also the state has to define murder, because all killing isn't illegal, ex the death penalty.
    The process of drawing that line is at least partially what politics is all about. It will always be fuzzy as we all have our own take on it. I personally think that is a good thing as life never has hard and fast rules.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I think I interpret the phrase differently.

    I want a test. It's just that my test would be designed to weed out people of improper religious faith.
    What are those improper religious faiths?
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What are those improper religious faiths?
    Just to name a few: all of them.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Good to know that you would only hire agnostics or atheists to represent a country mostly consisting of believers . That sounds like a great idea.
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Good to know that you would only hire agnostics or atheists to represent a country mostly consisting of believers . That sounds like a great idea.
    I agree. It's the only way to ensure that no government policy pays religion any mind.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I guess this is where our philosophies clash a bit. I'll use abortion as an example for my beliefs as well. I believe that abortion is murder because of my religious faith. Because I personally believe it's murder, I do not support the right to anyone practicing legalized murder. This is why I am against abortion as a right for anyone. I have my religious beliefs and because I hold them to be true and the best belief out there, I want to see that manifested through our laws just like anyone else.
    Personal questions digsbe (maybe it should be in a PM, not sure), but I have looked through the bible several times and I find multiple quotes that both support and detract from the idea that abortion is murder. Where do you get your opinion on this one from?

    (I hope I don't derail this thread)

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