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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The church doesn't run the state. The government is secular in that there is no denominational affiliation towards anything religious or irreligious (a Christian, Islamic, or atheistic formal state ideology). I think people with religious morals are equal with those who have secular/irreligious morals and should not be denied to have their voices heard through voting because their beliefs stem from their religion. I don't believe in separating religion and politics when it comes to one's personal political philosophy.
    Oh okay. I still believe one should separate their religious beliefs from their politics, because politics affect everyone in the country, and wanting someone to conform to their religious beliefs by mixing the two I think is wrong. Political beliefs should be formed with the thought of how to run the country the best, not with religious thought in mind.
    Like me with the abortion issue, I don't like abortion, I would never get one, (unless in rape, or if it could harm me), and this comes from a religious place, but I'm not going to try and ban abortion because of my beliefs. It would be silly for someone to have to follow that personal belief of mine, especially if they didn't follow the same religion as me.
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The debate of Seperation of Church and State has reared its ugly head once again.

    My view here is, if you are against Seperation of Church and State, then you must be for Religious government

    I.E. Basing laws and policy using Religious texts.

    While some things are more obvious and common sense, such as making murder illegal, other things such as making other religions illegal, teaching only creationism in schools etc... would be against the seperation of church and state.

    Is this something you advocate?
    Why are you trying to pick an argument? What is currently looked at as 'seperation of church and state' goes so insanely far as to declare that teaching students that evolution is a hypothesis and not a fact is religious teaching. There was a ruling in Georgia that declared just that.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    Why are you trying to pick an argument? What is currently looked at as 'seperation of church and state' goes so insanely far as to declare that teaching students that evolution is a hypothesis and not a fact is religious teaching. There was a ruling in Georgia that declared just that.
    Evolution is a theory, not a hypothesis.
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Evolution is a theory, not a hypothesis.
    Either way, it's still not scientifically proven at all, and letting students know that isn't teaching them religion in the least. But doing so was declared a violation of church and state. Tell me that isn't insanity.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Oh okay. I still believe one should separate their religious beliefs from their politics, because politics affect everyone in the country, and wanting someone to conform to their religious beliefs by mixing the two I think is wrong. Political beliefs should be formed with the thought of how to run the country the best, not with religious thought in mind.
    Some ways yes, some ways no. If your religious belief is that you should force everyone to worship as you do, obviously that should be kept away from your politics as it violates other political principals that Americans tend to hold as valuable. If your religious belief is that murder is wrong, than its perfectly acceptable to try and apply that to politics.

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    Either way, it's still not scientifically proven at all, and letting students know that isn't teaching them religion in the least. But doing so was declared a violation of church and state. Tell me that isn't insanity.
    Well if the teacher is doing their job they shouldn't have to tell them that, it should be self evident. The student should know the difference between a hypothesis, a theory, and a law by the time they get to evolution.
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Oh okay. I still believe one should separate their religious beliefs from their politics, because politics affect everyone in the country, and wanting someone to conform to their religious beliefs by mixing the two I think is wrong. Political beliefs should be formed with the thought of how to run the country the best, not with religious thought in mind.
    Like me with the abortion issue, I don't like abortion, I would never get one, (unless in rape, or if it could harm me), and this comes from a religious place, but I'm not going to try and ban abortion because of my beliefs. It would be silly for someone to have to follow that personal belief of mine, especially if they didn't follow the same religion as me.
    I guess this is where our philosophies clash a bit. I'll use abortion as an example for my beliefs as well. I believe that abortion is murder because of my religious faith. Because I personally believe it's murder, I do not support the right to anyone practicing legalized murder. This is why I am against abortion as a right for anyone. I have my religious beliefs and because I hold them to be true and the best belief out there, I want to see that manifested through our laws just like anyone else.
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Also, if we have 'seperation of church and state' why does Congress take time off for Christmas, a religious holiday? And why does Congress open with prayer?

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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Some ways yes, some ways no. If your religious belief is that you should force everyone to worship as you do, obviously that should be kept away from your politics as it violates other political principals that Americans tend to hold as valuable. If your religious belief is that murder is wrong, than its perfectly acceptable to try and apply that to politics.
    I also think that politics has to be at the very least somewhat complimentary to the public's moral sense, otherwise it can create a serious division between the public and its leaders.
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    Re: Do you favor Religious Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Some ways yes, some ways no. If your religious belief is that you should force everyone to worship as you do, obviously that should be kept away from your politics as it violates other political principals that Americans tend to hold as valuable. If your religious belief is that murder is wrong, than its perfectly acceptable to try and apply that to politics.
    No I don't think so. Because where do you draw the line, on what is acceptable to mix, and what isn't? Laws shouldn't have a religious belief behind them, it should be what is in the best interest to the state, and to the people that live in said state. Now obviously there are more than religious reasons to be against murder, and the state, and the people have an interest to make murdering people illegal. Also the state has to define murder, because all killing isn't illegal, ex the death penalty.
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