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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I misunderstood the question. I didn't read it right until after I voted. I don't think this is a good idea. There are plenty of people who are just barely making it themselves, who cannot afford to give how much they owe in taxes to charity.
    I meant that they would be giving it to charity INSTEAD of to the government...not in addition.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke
    And the government still has to be paid for. I don't see that happening if the majority of people are giving to charity. Military operations cannot be paid for through charity. Education cannot be completely paid for through charity. There are many other examples of things the government does that can't be paid through charity.
    What if it was just limited to the types of things that charities typically DO fund (e.g. anti-poverty initiatives, health care, foreign aid, housing, food, etc), and government still taxed people enough to provide the basic public services (e.g. military, education, infrastructure, etc)?

    I don't know if it would work...just a thought. Some of those programs probably require more coordination than others.
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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So?
    So....it's just another way of redistribution of wealth.

    Not necessarily. If private charities had more money, it would reduce the need for some government social programs (and thus reduce the need to tax).
    Our taxes are never going to be reduced. If you think government has any intention of becoming smaller, no matter WHAT we do, you're wrong.

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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    So....it's just another way of redistribution of wealth.
    I don't believe I said it wasn't...or that I even view "redistribution of wealth" as a problem in the first place. I'm confused as to what your point is. Are you saying redistribution of wealth is bad? If so, how is it related to this idea? This doesn't increase anyone's tax burden, it just changes who is receiving the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD
    Our taxes are never going to be reduced. If you think government has any intention of becoming smaller, no matter WHAT we do, you're wrong.
    That's mainly because people recognize that certain problems need funding to solve them, and at the present time, government is the only viable vehicle to fund them. That's not necessarily unchangeable though. By making charities a viable vehicle to fund anti-poverty initiatives (for example), it would reduce the need for government to do so.
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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I support it wholeheartedly - to an extent. Rathi does show a clear market failure when funding is given power to the giver instead of the taker. We need some level of taxation to ensure the services that most of us take for granted are still allocated to the general populace. However, I would like to see more private charity incentivization through the use of a pure credit. This way, you can make it as close to a la carte as humanly possible, like maybe you'd rather see money go to the United Way than freely given to Israel.

    Tax money should go to national defense, infrastructure, and a few other public goods that clearly cannot be compensated through the private sector. Everything else, let the people decide how their money is spent.
    I fully support complete tax deductions for charitable giving. If you have 200K in income and you give 100K away its rotten that you should be taxed at 200K or even 150K when your income is actually 100K after the giving. Of course the obamunists want to make you pay some taxes on income you do not have--charity is anathema to the hard left

    and I note that a recent study found that conservatives give more to secular (and of course religious) charities than similarly situated liberals and when liberals give its often to think tanks that study poverty and advocate more socialism rather than to institutions that actually help people (such as the Shriners, the Red Cross, etc)



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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    and I note that a recent study found that conservatives give more to secular (and of course religious) charities than similarly situated liberals and when liberals give its often to think tanks that study poverty and advocate more socialism rather than to institutions that actually help people (such as the Shriners, the Red Cross, etc)
    You can find "studies" that show liberals/conservatives/libertarians/atheists/Druids are of course more generous than the evil other guys. It is nothing more than a pathetic exercise in ego stroking.

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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and I note that a recent study found that conservatives give more to secular (and of course religious) charities than similarly situated liberals and when liberals give its often to think tanks that study poverty and advocate more socialism rather than to institutions that actually help people (such as the Shriners, the Red Cross, etc)
    And this is relevant to the topic of this thread...how?
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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You can find "studies" that show liberals/conservatives/libertarians/atheists/Druids are of course more generous than the evil other guys. It is nothing more than a pathetic exercise in ego stroking.
    conservatives aren't the ones trying to get rid of charitable contributions by ending tax breaks

    conservatives push charities, liberals push government



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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And this is relevant to the topic of this thread...how?
    its relevant because some want to end tax deductions for charitable giving and that was one of the choices

    you did read the poll didn't you?



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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its relevant because some want to end tax deductions for charitable giving and that was one of the choices
    I didn't ask anything about whether liberals or conservatives donate more money. Can you make it through a single post without being a partisan hack?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    you did read the poll didn't you?
    It's my poll, dip****.
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    Re: Tax credit for charitable donations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I didn't ask anything about whether liberals or conservatives donate more money. Can you make it through a single post without being a partisan hack?



    It's my poll, dip****.
    No Sh1t sherlock

    that's why I asked

    remember, I ask questions I already know the answer to

    and speaking of partisan hacks



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