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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Athiests fully believe that a diety or the supernatural simply is impossible and untrue.
    That's one flavor of atheism. However, many atheists believe that the existence of a deity or the supernatural is highly improbable and will not believe in it unless there is hard evidence shown to prove its existence.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    See, I think the funny thing here is that the athiests, especially the militant types, have so insulted, derided, and chastised the notion of "belief" that its gotten to the point that they can't dare allow themselves to be considered a belief even though they are because then that would apply their insults to themselves. They've attempted to contort and twist a word so much in the process of their non-stop evangelizing of the horrors and evils and idiocy and bigotry and lunacy and vileness of that horrible notion of "religion" and "belief" that they didn't stop to think that "belief" is a rather wide ranging word.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    I think there is generally confusion in discussions of atheism because of how the opposing sides defines atheism, for most atheists it is not an absolute "there is no ultimate power", it is merely a default stance in the absence of evidence
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    See, I think the funny thing here is that the athiests, especially the militant types, have so insulted, derided, and chastised the notion of "belief" that its gotten to the point that they can't dare allow themselves to be considered a belief even though they are because then that would apply their insults to themselves. They've attempted to contort and twist a word so much in the process of their non-stop evangelizing of the horrors and evils and idiocy and bigotry and lunacy and vileness of that horrible notion of "religion" and "belief" that they didn't stop to think that "belief" is a rather wide ranging word.
    I think this is over simplified generalization and inaccurate as to why many would argue against atheism being a belief.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    See, I think the funny thing here is that the athiests, especially the militant types, have so insulted, derided, and chastised the notion of "belief" that its gotten to the point that they can't dare allow themselves to be considered a belief even though they are because then that would apply their insults to themselves. They've attempted to contort and twist a word so much in the process of their non-stop evangelizing of the horrors and evils and idiocy and bigotry and lunacy and vileness of that horrible notion of "religion" and "belief" that they didn't stop to think that "belief" is a rather wide ranging word.
    This doesn't compute.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    All kool-aid is evil

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    And I am saying the same with regards to Poseidon, Zeus, Allah, and Jehovah.
    So you're saying that athiesm is the denial of a "god" not necessarily of the divine?

    My atheism has nothing to do with "supernatural". I don't "believe in something despite there being no concrete definitiive answers".
    So you have belief that unless something can be proven it doesn't exist. Or more, that everything that exists can be proven to.

    No, it's not. It's the lack of belief of an invisible man in the sky orchestrating our lives.
    Oh look, I'm amazed, a self proclaimed athiest immedietely reverting to condenscention. I'm shocked, shocked I say.

    Wow, didn't realize all religions believed that a "man in the sky" is "orchestrating our lives".

    Incorrect. Though, IMO, anything that happens is natural. Which is why I reject words such a "supernatural" and "natural". They make no sense logically. If there were a god, it would most assuredly be "natural".
    natrual suggests something that follows natural laws. Something that violates natural laws would then be unnatural or supernatural.

    No, it's the lack of belief in an invisible man in the sky who shoots lighting bolts out of his ass.
    Yay, more athiest sarcasm and belittling. I love that all the traits that I hate in evangelical religious people are right there in the militant athiests as well...amaizng that.


    Incorrect. We simply lack belief in them. Much like I lack belief in fairies. I don't "believe fairies are simply impossible and untrue", I just don't believe in them.
    And that in and of itself is belief. To believe that something does not exist is a belief.

    You're not saying "I don't think gods exist because they've not been proven to me" you're going "Gods don't exist".


    Agnostics think it's unknowable, Atheist simply lack belief.
    Agnostics simply lack belief in whether or not its there, they hold no belief in either way. Athiests BELIEVE that they do not exist.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    I think there is generally confusion in discussions of atheism because of how the opposing sides defines atheism, for most atheists it is not an absolute "there is no ultimate power", it is merely a default stance in the absence of evidence
    Possibly because so many athiests go "There is no god" not "There may be a god/something divine, but until I have proof I don't think there is".

    I've rarely seen any athiest who routinely acknowledges that there's the potential that such exists but we don't have proof yet and thus that's why they don't think there is. Its almost always simply stated as an absolute, unquestionable fact, usually with uppity sarcastic condenscending tones and insults.

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