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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then you haven't done your research. From an article, "I have spoken with a number of people who have sought assistance from the Salvation Army in the past, particularly for disaster relief. I was told of how these people were preached to and forced into praying with the Salvation Army folks to their Christian God as a prerequisite for receiving services. If you're Jewish, tough. If you're Hindu, tough. Gotta pray their way, to their God, or else you're not worthy of assistance. It's quid pro quo. Gotta take advantage of people when they're most vulnerable. Contrast this with the secular Red Cross, which just wants to help disaster victims, not save their souls."

    Funny how you accuse me of living in the very distant past, then bring up something from the 1950s.
    50 years ago is distant past? you are very young, then....
    I read your link, someone says he or she saw something once, yada, yada, yada......
    and their "paramilitary" uniforms? that indicates a huge bias right off the bat.
    A few cases of child molestations? happens everywhere all the time, all religions, all organizations that are big enough will have a pervert or 2 in its membership, doesn't make the entire orgainization suspect...

    Your claims are all hot air.....
    Come up with some arrests and court cases showing continued coercion on the religion angle, and you might be able to regain SOME credibility....
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    What does this mantra mean to you? From your repetition, it seems that you ascribe some significance to it.
    I was simply stating verifiable fact.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    What does this mantra mean to you? From your repetition, it seems that you ascribe some significance to it.
    I realized I didn't answer your question. This "mantra", as you call it, is verifiable fact. Quantum mechanics requires a subjective observer. This means, of course, that the universe is subjective. There are no objective truths.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I realized I didn't answer your question. This "mantra", as you call it, is verifiable fact. Quantum mechanics requires a subjective observer. This means, of course, that the universe is subjective. There are no objective truths.
    I've been trying to say this but from a neuroscience perspective. It's hard to get people to think in that mind frame because it's the next era of thinking and it's fairly new to our species.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I've been trying to say this but from a neuroscience perspective. It's hard to get people to think in that mind frame because it's the next era of thinking and it's fairly new to our species.
    The implications are profound. It means our consciousness, which is the observer of the subjective world, turns out to be rather central to the existence of the Universe.
    Last edited by reefedjib; 10-20-10 at 08:09 PM.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    @ jamesrage
    Atheism is simply the absence of belief in god/s.
    The definition of religion thus, does not apply to atheism.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If claiming that disbelief is in fact a belief then one could claim that no taste is in fact a taste of its own. So, does water have a taste?
    Water has taste. That why waters from different sources have distinct flavors.

    Any affirmation of a concept, entity, or deed, for any reason, is a belief, so we all have beliefs. Some are more justified than others.

    Atheism isn't a religion, it is a viewpoint. Strictly defined, 'atheism' doesn't entail anything except lack of affirmation of a Supreme Being/s. Secular Humanism resonates with some concepts of religion, but I don't consider it such.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If claiming that disbelief is in fact a belief then one could claim that no taste is in fact a taste of its own. So, does water have a taste?
    It's a religion because atheists are so active in trying to humiliate religious people and quash religious worship. They feel their non-belief is critical to society.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's a religion because atheists are so active in trying to humiliate religious people and quash religious worship. They feel their non-belief is critical to society.
    Atheism is simply the absence of belief in god/s; that’s it!

    Religion - a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

    By definition atheism is not a religion.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's a religion because atheists are so active in trying to humiliate religious people and quash religious worship. They feel their non-belief is critical to society.
    No one is trying to quash religious worship, they are simply trying to stop the religious from imposing their beliefs on those who have no desire for them. I've always found it funny that telling people they should respect others and keep their beliefs to themselves is seen as discriminatory.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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