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Thread: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Oh? What other correct ways are there to view the world?
    That's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with atheism. You're now off talking about something entirely different.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God is provable through science. Science demands a creator and evident through our scientific laws. We can't physically put God in a test tube, but we know He exists.
    Fundamentally this is an incorrect statement as science relies on measurement to make proof. Gods by their definitions are immeasurable and thus science cannot speak of them.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Asshole
    The last response of someone who has completely and utterly lost.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I see evidence of evolution. That it happens is indisputable.
    The big bang theory... meh.
    I lack belief in any god or goddess. They may well exist, but until they have given me a reason to believe, I will continue to lack belief.
    I think evolution exists, but on a time frame too slow for much progress. We are still basically the same stupid animals we were a thousand years ago. Technology has evolved far faster than our puny selves can handle it.
    Big Bang Theory, it is on CBS, thursday nights, and is very funny..real or not.
    Gods, those are inventions of man in his own image, a guide post for our lives.
    Goddesses, however are all too real, nearly every woman thinks she is one...
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Cite evidence.
    I would say it's evidence that we have scientific laws and that our universe governs in a designed and orderly fashion. But to go even further back. We know that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. It's scientific law that this is true. Something had to create matter and energy that was beyond science (God). To believe that there is no God, one must have faith that something beyond science did not create all that exists. It also means someone must by faith, believe that something against what we know about science for some reason somehow created everything through an unknown and unproven method. For me it would make sense that our universe was created by a designer as it is orderly and is governed by scientific laws. There must have been a will and a reason for its creation as I don't believe that it could have happened without a will and for no reason. My belief indirectly supports God's existence through science. Gleaning from what we know, something supernatural must have created matter and all that exists within our universe.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I would say it's evidence that we have scientific laws and that our universe governs in a designed and orderly fashion. But to go even further back. We know that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. It's scientific law that this is true. Something had to create matter and energy that was beyond science (God). To believe that there is no God, one must have faith that something beyond science did not create all that exists. It also means someone must by faith, believe that something against what we know about science for some reason somehow created everything through an unknown and unproven method. For me it would make sense that our universe was created by a designer as it is orderly and is governed by scientific laws. There must have been a will and a reason for its creation as I don't believe that it could have happened without a will and for no reason. My belief indirectly supports God's existence through science. Gleaning from what we know, something supernatural must have created matter and all that exists within our universe.
    That's not scientific reasoning, that's personal belief and philosophy. Science would say that we do not know yet.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Fundamentally this is an incorrect statement as science relies on measurement to make proof. Gods by their definitions are immeasurable and thus science cannot speak of them.
    Depends on what you think a god is.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's not scientific reasoning, that's personal belief and philosophy. Science would say that we do not know yet.
    It's developing a belief through scientific reasoning. The fact that scientific law states that matter cannot be created or destroyed demands that something beyond the constraints of scientific law (God) must have created all things in existence.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God is provable through science. Science demands a creator and evident through our scientific laws. We can't physically put God in a test tube, but we know He exists.
    Then prove God through science. Of course, you realize that will require you to produce objective, testable evidence that does not require a priori faith that it's real first, right? So when you manage to do that, you can win the Nobel prize and be wealthy.

    Be sure to let us know when you manage it.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I would say it's evidence that we have scientific laws and that our universe governs in a designed and orderly fashion. But to go even further back. We know that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. It's scientific law that this is true. Something had to create matter and energy that was beyond science (God). To believe that there is no God, one must have faith that something beyond science did not create all that exists. It also means someone must by faith, believe that something against what we know about science for some reason somehow created everything through an unknown and unproven method. For me it would make sense that our universe was created by a designer as it is orderly and is governed by scientific laws. There must have been a will and a reason for its creation as I don't believe that it could have happened without a will and for no reason. My belief indirectly supports God's existence through science. Gleaning from what we know, something supernatural must have created matter and all that exists within our universe.
    I believe the term 'god' is essentially a redundancy in describing causal relations.
    The problem is you're leaving really big holes open, as in, who created god?

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