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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Ok, so do you feel that valid knowledge can come from non-rational sources?
    I'm trying to comprehend what a "non-rational source" would be.

    Your sentence is littered with words that have subjective definitions. "feel", "valid", "knowledge", "non-rational". If you're asking if I think "valid knowledge" can come from an invisible man whispering in your ear, then no... not valid to me. Perhaps it's valid to you.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    But agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive, there are agnostic atheists, and there are gnostic atheists.
    In fact, *EVERYONE* is both theist/atheist *AND* gnostic/agnostic. You cannot have one without the other because they both deal with entirely different things. One deals with belief, do you believe in god(s) or not. The other deals with the nature of knowledge, can you know anything about god(s) or not. Like it or not, every single person on the planet capable of thinking holds one of both positions.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Why disprove something unproveable?
    I'm sorry, you have to prove the purple dragon exists. We don't have to prove that it doesn't.
    God is provable through science. Science demands a creator and evident through our scientific laws. We can't physically put God in a test tube, but we know He exists.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Faith that God does not exist. It requires faith to deny that God exists without any proof.
    Faith that God does not exist? I do not take "God's" existence into consideration when exploring the world around me. Example, I see a rabbit and I 'believe' God didn't create it. I know that rabbit is the offspring of two other rabbits. So I know 'God' didn't create it. You on the other hand see a rabbit and regardless of all the evidence showing you that rabbits are a mamalian species which procreate, you think that the rabbit was created by a god. So exatcly what purpose does saying that I have 'faith' in the non-existence of something when I know, due to evidence, that it doesn't exist? Do I also have faith in the non-existence of other things? Do you have 'faith' in the non-existence of furry beasts under your bed?
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Saying you do not believe in something IS a belief.
    That's like saying being bald is a hair color.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God is provable through science. Science demands a creator and evident through our scientific laws. We can't physically put God in a test tube, but we know He exists.
    If the existence of a god/dess were provable through science, it would have been proven through science. Science hardly "demands a creator". And "we" certainly do not know it exists. "We" know nothing of the sort.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God is provable through science. We can't physically put God in a test tube, but we know He exists.
    If God was provable through science then God could actually be physically put in a test tube.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Faith that God does not exist? I do not take "God's" existence into consideration when exploring the world around me. Example, I see a rabbit and I 'believe' God didn't create it. I know that rabbit is the offspring of two other rabbits. So I know 'God' didn't create it. You on the other hand see a rabbit and regardless of all the evidence showing you that rabbits are a mamalian species which procreate, you think that the rabbit was created by a god. So exatcly what purpose does saying that I have 'faith' in the non-existence of something when I know, due to evidence, that it doesn't exist? Do I also have faith in the non-existence of other things? Do you have 'faith' in the non-existence of furry beasts under your bed?
    Don't put words in my own mouth. I don't believe that God supernaturally crafted every rabbit and I know it's the result of sexual reproduction. I believe the first animals were created by God and that all in existence was created by God. One must have faith that the evidence for God is either incorrect by clinging to pseudoscience and unproven theories or by denying what we know about scientific laws. If you look at nature as a whole it would scream for a creator. People must have faith that God does not exist, because by faith they reject the proofs and things that suggest a creator.

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    If God was provable through science then God could actually be physically put in a test tube.
    We can prove gravity though science, but we can't put gravity in a test tube.
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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God is provable through science. Science demands a creator and evident through our scientific laws. We can't physically put God in a test tube, but we know He exists.
    Cite evidence.

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    Re: Does water have a taste? Is atheism a religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If God was provable through science then God could actually be physically put in a test tube.
    False......

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