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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    I believe that gay couples will probably raise more 'practicing' gay children (as in people who actually have homosexual sex on a regular basis, rather than those who are attracted to members of the same sex, but do not act on their attractions). I suspect this would be due to the kids being raised in an environment where they're around gay people much more and see it as more normal.

    Overall, if you were somehow able to determine whether people were attracted to members of the same sex or the opposite sex, you would see similar levels of homosexual desires in people raised by hetero- and homosexual couples. I think the ones raised by hetero couples would just hide it more often.
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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    No. I've posted a ton of research on this in the past. Gay parents are not more likely to raise gay children.

    One thing to consider, though, something that is often missed when discussing this issue. Since we know that homosexuality is not a disorder and homosexuality in and of itself is not harmful in any way, what difference does it make? It's like wondering if left-handed parents beget more left-handed children. If they do or if they don't, who cares?
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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I believe that gay couples will probably raise more 'practicing' gay children (as in people who actually have homosexual sex on a regular basis, rather than those who are attracted to members of the same sex, but do not act on their attractions). I suspect this would be due to the kids being raised in an environment where they're around gay people much more and see it as more normal.

    Overall, if you were somehow able to determine whether people were attracted to members of the same sex or the opposite sex, you would see similar levels of homosexual desires in people raised by hetero- and homosexual couples. I think the ones raised by hetero couples would just hide it more often.
    Given that the vast majority of gay people come from straight parents, this is a patently absurd argument.

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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I believe that gay couples will probably raise more 'practicing' gay children (as in people who actually have homosexual sex on a regular basis, rather than those who are attracted to members of the same sex, but do not act on their attractions). I suspect this would be due to the kids being raised in an environment where they're around gay people much more and see it as more normal.

    Overall, if you were somehow able to determine whether people were attracted to members of the same sex or the opposite sex, you would see similar levels of homosexual desires in people raised by hetero- and homosexual couples. I think the ones raised by hetero couples would just hide it more often.
    In bold. Right on target. This is what studies show. The fallacy that more gay parents raise gay children is just that... a fallacy. What DOES happen is that because children raised by gay parents are raised in an evironment that is more open-minded to a variety of sexual orientations, it is more likely that the child will be more comfortable being open about their sexual orientation, if they are gay.
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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    I'm a tad skeptical of the researcher given that he set out to prove something, namely that homosexuality is not genetic. He also seemed to be rather selective of the studies he used.

    However, his evidence is a meta-analysis, which is considered one of the highest sources of evidence and I have seen no other study like this to date. It's currently very compelling evidence, and I'm sure it will show up in future cases regarding same sex marriage. I think most people already assume that gays and lesbians are more likely to raise homosexual children, so I don't see it having a great affect on public opinion.

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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think most people already assume that gays and lesbians are more likely to raise homosexual children, so I don't see it having a great affect on public opinion.
    Well fortunately, the opinions of the masses don't determine civil rights.

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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Well fortunately, the opinions of the masses don't determine civil rights.
    Unfortunately, whether civil rights actually occur, as we've seen throughout history, the opinions of the masses DO determine them.
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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Unfortunately, whether civil rights actually occur, as we've seen throughout history, the opinions of the masses DO determine them.
    Only when the overwhelming majority are against them and there hasn't been sufficient systemic change. I don't think SSM is stuck in that place anymore. A lot of people either don't care either way, or they are for it... enough, at least, to warrant this issue being dealt with now. This is and always has been about what is best for children, so ironically the conservatives are right when they talk about family values. They are just distorting what those values mean.

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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Well fortunately, the opinions of the masses don't determine civil rights.
    I think this is actually a fortunate turn of events. If conservatives try to use this to push their battle against civil rights for gays, it would likely backfire. It opens up the "child" argument. Even if a child who was raised by a gay man or woman is more likely to identify as gay, that same research indicates that child's outcome is likely to be positive. The question is then purely whether homosexuality is acceptable in society and the ideological debate on that is almost purely based on religousity.

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    Re: Are gay parents more likely to raise gay children?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think this is actually a fortunate turn of events. If conservatives try to use this to push their battle against civil rights for gays, it would likely backfire. It opens up the "child" argument. Even if a child who was raised by a gay man or woman is more likely to identify as gay, that same research indicates that child's outcome is likely to be positive. The question is then purely whether homosexuality is acceptable in society and the ideological debate on that is almost purely based on religousity.
    Well, my main point is... even if it's true that a child of heterosexual parents is more likely to be gay (and it isn't), who the hell cares? That very idea has its roots in homophobia. We are still in many ways stuck at square one of this argument: gay people don't choose to be gay. Whether it's nature or nurture is not relevant to the fact that the orientation is fixed, so I don't see why these notions are even part of the debate. They are completely irrelevant to a person having the right to be with whoever they want and have equal ability to do it with an opposite-sex partner or same-sex partner.

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