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Thread: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

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    Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    Is knowledge derived solely from reasoning about something as an individual, as an articulated rationality, or is the systematic, institutional and traditional sources of knowledge like family, church, youth groups, military, civil service, government that represent non-individual collective knowledge?

    Also implicit in the unconstrained vision is the view that the relevant comparison is between the beliefs of one sort of person and another - between x and y, rather than between (1) systemic processes working through successive generations of individuals a through x, as expressed through the living generation x, versus (2) the articulated rationality of y in isolation. The rejection of the concept of collective wisdom leaves individual comparisons as the standard of judgement. Since the experiences of a through w no longer count, the issue reduces to the articulated rationality of x versus that of y. Therefore, the unconstrained vision necessarily favors the "cultivated mind" y, while the constrained vision necessarily favors the views expressed through x, seen as representative of the unarticulated experience of many others (a through w). The two visions thus lead to opposite conclusions as to which opinion should prevail and why.
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    Re: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Is knowledge derived solely from reasoning about something as an individual, as an articulated rationality, or is the systematic, institutional and traditional sources of knowledge like family, church, youth groups, military, civil service, government that represent non-individual collective knowledge?
    False dichotomy - the answer is "both".

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    Re: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    False dichotomy - the answer is "both".
    Read it as the major contributor. Which dominates?

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    Re: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    As for the poll, I am both and I cannot tell which one I am more of. I think it depends on the situation and I am not smart enough to consider all situations at once.

    As for the question in the title. I think the answer is no.

    Knowledge is hinted at through reason, but unless that knowledge can be verified through evidence, it remains philosophy (a fancy word for speculation).

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    Re: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    As for the poll, I am both and I cannot tell which one I am more of. I think it depends on the situation and I am not smart enough to consider all situations at once.

    As for the question in the title. I think the answer is no.

    Knowledge is hinted at through reason, but unless that knowledge can be verified through evidence, it remains philosophy (a fancy word for speculation).
    I suppose the real question is whether this makes sense: "the relevant comparison is between the beliefs of one sort of person and another - between x and y, rather than between systemic processes working through successive generations of individuals a through x, as expressed through the living generation x"?

    The question is the knowledge within systematic processes working through successive generations is the alternative to purely rational reasoning and knowledge of an individual? Is there knowledge stored in social structures because one man alone is incapable of being an expert in all areas? So it is a collective knowledge.

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    Re: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    Considering how much a person learns in school, and how schools at least attempt to explain the reasoning behind the knowledge they are giving you, I'd imagine the smarter you become, the more reason based you are. Consequently, the dumber you are, the more dependant on knowledge you end up being.
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    Re: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Read it as the major contributor. Which dominates?
    I would say the latter.

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    Re: Is knowledge derived solely from reason?

    I don't get how these two particular options were formulated but they are not the be all and end all of epistemology.

    Everything you think, do, and experience is where your knowledge comes from. Calling knowledge "reason" only is just... unreasonable.

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