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    Is man perfectible?

    I was thinking these past few days about whether people can change their behavior, their choices and actions, for the better. Can man consistently make choices for altruistic reasons? Certainly there are some individuals who do it, but do you think the progress of the human race is such that more and more people will do so? Can man learn to act for social good, rather than personal interest? Or does man act only out of selfishness and self-interest and must be limited to the damage they cause one another? Is man perfectible?

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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    Man is powerful but limited. The nature of man won't change until we completely evolve out of current biology.

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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    The "Age of Ideology" proved that man is not to be perfected. Between 1789 and 1991, a select few decided that their systems of organization would bring utopia or a "perfect" society. Unfortunately for the hundreds of millions of corpses between Berlin and Cambodia, the imperfect man proved to always dissapoint the "perfect" system. There's a reason the word democracy is not an -ism. Only in a system where men are free to be imperfect can a society be the most healthy.
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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    Man is a curious primate with opposable thumbs and upright posture. We are what we are. Thinking about it in terms of perfect and imperfect is a false dichotomy.

    Where is the thread on perfecting alligators?

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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I was thinking these past few days about whether people can change their behavior, their choices and actions, for the better. Can man consistently make choices for altruistic reasons? Certainly there are some individuals who do it, but do you think the progress of the human race is such that more and more people will do so? Can man learn to act for social good, rather than personal interest? Or does man act only out of selfishness and self-interest and must be limited to the damage they cause one another? Is man perfectible?
    In western societies:

    What you called selfishness saved the lives of all those miners in Chile. It encouraged the production of technology that saved lives. Capitalism brings out the greater good of people. Not all, but better than any other system. It's why Americans are the most philanthropic of people.

    Communism at the other end created barbarism.

    Socialism destroys philanthropy and altruistic behavior, as people have less, struggle more, and point to the state when someone needs "help". This leads to corruption, favoritism and resentment.

    Tell me, what is more compassionate? Reducing investment because the investors might make fantastic profits, and spreading the wealth around; being hostile to business and individuals making great profits, and having people die because of it? Or allowing people to profit from their ingenuity, fostering the creation jobs and life saving technology?



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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    Is man perfectible?

    My dog thinks so.
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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    Maybe in the far future, but not in the near future.
    There is nothing wrong with imperfection though.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I was thinking these past few days about whether people can change their behavior, their choices and actions, for the better. Can man consistently make choices for altruistic reasons? Certainly there are some individuals who do it, but do you think the progress of the human race is such that more and more people will do so? Can man learn to act for social good, rather than personal interest? Or does man act only out of selfishness and self-interest and must be limited to the damage they cause one another? Is man perfectible?
    Man is imperfect. In fact, nature is imperfect.
    The Greeks spent years and years trying to define perfection - and what did it do for them?

    People are better off when they accept their imperfections and weaknesses and then embrace those weakenesses and call them uniquenesses.
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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    As a general rule, humans act in whatever manner they believe will best serve their own best interest.
    This is as far as predicability can go, given that everyone's perception of their own best interest varies.

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    Re: Is man perfectible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    As a general rule, humans act in whatever manner they believe will best serve their own best interest.
    This is as far as predicability can go, given that everyone's perception of their own best interest varies.
    How often do you think society's best interest and individuals' best interest match up? If other words, how often will a person's self interest be harmful to society? As so to the primary question, can man learn to align his self interest with society's?

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