View Poll Results: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

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  • YES! It hurts America!

    24 66.67%
  • No! It adds information!

    8 22.22%
  • Meh..... it really does nothing.

    0 0%
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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Please Explain
    Choose an ideology that is closest to yours. If it's split 50/50, flip a coin.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    No , the Libertarians are perpetual losers and seldom do they hurt the GOP.
    Maybe thats because the GOP embraces statism for only different reasons than the Democrats and care to explain the massive gains that either the Greens or the Constitution party has made?
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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    I was unaware they were making such advancement. I'd like to hear more , and it just might be a positive sign.

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I know it isn't wasted, but its not the best use for the money is what I'm trying to get at.
    You mean its not the best use for the money - in your opinion.
    How do you suppose you'd get those many millions of dollars out of campaigning and into R+D?

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    I was unaware they were making such advancement. I'd like to hear more , and it just might be a positive sign.
    You said that the LP are perpetual losers, yet you advocate for the GP and CP I wanted to know why.
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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You mean, more precisely, Dems who fear for their re-election are less likely to support legislation that is unpopular with their constituents than Dems who do not fear for their re-election.
    Both parties would do it, especially those who have no other life... The realization of not being relevant or needed anymore is a crushing blow.

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Both parties would do it, especially those who have no other life... The realization of not being relevant or needed anymore is a crushing blow.
    ricksfolly
    So you agree that the "Dems are more prone to listen to their voters than the Reps because they want to be fair" assertion is false.

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    6 or 7 party's is one way to look at it. Another is, we as a country of people and voters are too wishy-washy. We need to pick a side - either R or D and stick with it - the problem with this is neither party, were they to gain majority, would listen to the other party's ideas. Bi-partisan views only work when there's a clear majority of one party AND that majority doesn't dismiss the other party as irrelevant. Right now, neither party in a majority would have the ability to listen and take the good idea's of the minority. The reason is our system is sick...

    Our system isn't based on civil service or betterment of people or our society - it's based on raising money. At the most basic level - that must be cut out like the cancer it is for anything to improve. Without it, this is all nonsensical rhetoric like "hope and change". Think about it - when a new Senator or House member wins office this November - the first few meetings they have are with lobbyists (and this is both party's folks) and their National Committee members give the new Congresspeople their marching orders for 2011: Raise money for the party. Tell me that's not ****ed up.
    We as a public are both "wishy-washy" and partisan. Do not expect to change the public's attitudes with simplistic platitudes.

    Government workers are significantly attracted to the idea of civil service and betterment of the people. Money is merely a way to keep it flowing. Lobbyists have their benefits and weaknesses, but I would warn anyone not to bash lobbyists so readily. Lobbyists are not just a detriment, but also one of the benefits of our democracy, allowing a political organization to possibly have disproportionate amount of influence in politics in order to ensure the rights and impact policy for minorities and majorities alike.
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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    We as a public are both "wishy-washy" and partisan. Do not expect to change the public's attitudes with simplistic platitudes.

    Government workers are significantly attracted to the idea of civil service and betterment of the people. Lobbyists have their benefits and weaknesses, but I would warn anyone not to bash lobbyists so readily. Lobbyists are not just a detriment, but also one of the benefits of our democracy,
    CS is also a permanent job with all the perks.

    I agree that lobbyists are definitely needed because they have a real understanding of the companies they represent, but they are also subject to bribes and other perks.

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    I agree that lobbyists are definitely needed because they have a real understanding of the companies they represent, but they are also subject to bribes and other perks.

    ricksfolly
    Why the hell would anyone want to bribe a lobbyist?

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